Miscellaneous NHL Discussion XCVIII: Orange is the new Orange (Poll in OP)

Favorite Orange Item or Reference

  • The Flyers' jerseys

    Votes: 9 19.6%
  • Syracuse, Texas, Clemson, the Orioles, the Bengals, the SF Giants, Netherlands or any other team

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • Pumpkins

    Votes: 9 19.6%
  • Carrots

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • Hidden references in the Godfather trilogy

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • The House of Orange

    Votes: 5 10.9%
  • The Golden Gate Bridge

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A simple orange

    Votes: 8 17.4%
  • Somethin' else

    Votes: 6 13.0%

  • Total voters
    46
  • Poll closed .
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DancingPanther

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I nearly put something in my post about "forget the last x number of years" for this exactly reason lol.

The point is you're a fan. You have been a fan. You will be a fan again. You have 28k posts in a group dedicated to Flyers fandom. And the fact that you are nothing but a check to the Flyers, Eagles, Sixers, Phillies or any other team you support won't stop you from being a fan.

Btw, if you think I've loved every single year of Penn State football, you'd be wrong. From JoePa fully embracing nepotism by letting his son run the blandest offense in the nation to Franklin's gameday decision making and plenty of stops in between, I've been frustrated too.
Is nepotism what they call it nowadays in Happy Valley?
 

Curufinwe

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Why exactly will they likely be competitive again before the Flyers? They'll be about 3-4 years behind us in terms of a rebuild, the GM responsible for their past success is gone. The owner responsible for their past success sold the team. The players who won those cups will all be retired. Is there just something in the water in Pittsburgh?
The Flyers are working on 50 years of failure, think Torts is the coach to lead a rebuild, and have a dopey old jockstrap sniffer as the acting owner while Pittsburgh are owned by FSG. That's why.
 

deadhead

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Jones is a third pair guy, those results were against bottom competition, in a sheltered role, even for Chicago
On Carolina, he might #7/#8.
Throw Chatfield, Jones and Coughlan in a hat.
Though if they trade Pesce, they'd have to promote one of Chatifeld or Coughlan, which makes me think they'll just let him walk after the season.
 

Adam Warlock

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The league tried to get a PR win by being proactive with their own investigation... but now theyre stuck in a really bad spot. They probably thought something legally wouldve happened by now or the players names would be out there...but id imagine itd be very problematic if they came out naming and suspending players who are not in any legal hot water at the moment. From an NHLPA perspective...what investigative experience does the league have to make these kinds of claims and determine innocent or guilty? Will they investigate future alligations against players that dont have charges brought? What if they suspend a player who is later cleared by the justice system?

Its a really messy situation and I never really understood why the NHL involved themselves. If the players were charged? Then sure... and im sure thats what the league would prefer to happen. But my guess is they wanted to appease the outrage in the moment by announcing theyd be investigating.

The league should have spent the resources trying to change this ugly culture that clearly exists at all levels of the sport.
 

Lindberg

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Oct 5, 2013
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The league tried to get a PR win by being proactive with their own investigation... but now theyre stuck in a really bad spot. They probably thought something legally wouldve happened by now or the players names would be out there...but id imagine itd be very problematic if they came out naming and suspending players who are not in any legal hot water at the moment. From an NHLPA perspective...what investigative experience does the league have to make these kinds of claims and determine innocent or guilty? Will they investigate future alligations against players that dont have charges brought? What if they suspend a player who is later cleared by the justice system?

Its a really messy situation and I never really understood why the NHL involved themselves. If the players were charged? Then sure... and im sure thats what the league would prefer to happen. But my guess is they wanted to appease the outrage in the moment by announcing theyd be investigating.

The league should have spent the resources trying to change this ugly culture that clearly exists at all levels of the sport.

Yeah incredibly stupid move by the NHL. It's likely there's an NHL player involved at this point and the NHL and NHLPA are working out how to mitigate the problem.

I wouldn't be too surprised if the NHL just keeps postponing this thing until everyone forgets about it. In reality it's probably pretty irrelevant at this point since most people who go to hockey games probably don't even know about it. Postpone, postpone, postpone and done.
 
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DrinkFightFlyers

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Giroux one spot ahead of Laine is comedy
I think being one spot behind Alex Tuch is funnier. They had the same amount of points (albeit Giroux played a handful more games) but Tuch has struggled to stay healthy and up to last season had a career high of 52 points. I like Tuch but no chance I'd rank him over Giroux. Perhaps long term you'd want Tuch on your team because of Giroux's age, but if it is just ranking the forwards it has to be Giroux. And Guentzel being that high above Giroux...come on! That guy has made a career off of being near Sydney Crosby. Put him on another team and he's not producing nearly as much.
 
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