Miscellaneous NHL Discussion XCVIII: Orange is the new Orange (Poll in OP)

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Favorite Orange Item or Reference

  • The Flyers' jerseys

    Votes: 9 19.6%
  • Syracuse, Texas, Clemson, the Orioles, the Bengals, the SF Giants, Netherlands or any other team

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • Pumpkins

    Votes: 9 19.6%
  • Carrots

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • Hidden references in the Godfather trilogy

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • The House of Orange

    Votes: 5 10.9%
  • The Golden Gate Bridge

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A simple orange

    Votes: 8 17.4%
  • Somethin' else

    Votes: 6 13.0%

  • Total voters
    46
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Missed this Jfresh poll from earlier this month. Apologies if it's been posted already

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Jul. 8, 2022​

Carolina Hurricanes Acquire:
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2022 4th round pick (PHI - #101 - Simon Forsmark)
2023 3rd round pick (PHI - #71 - Brandon Svoboda) [Conditional]*
2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
*Conditions: CAR will receive the best of PHI/FLA/NYR 3rd round pick in 2023 draft.

Result: Carolina receives Philadelphia's 2023 3rd round pick

Philadelphia Flyers Acquire:
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Anthony Deangelo (Signing Rights)
2022 7th round pick (CAR - #220 - Alexis Gendron)
 
TDA to Carolina 1/$1.6. Don’t know what to say about this. Seems a bit off to me

It's something I called when we were buying him out. Was fully predictable. Flyers got played because of Tortorella. Everyone knew he was leaving either via trade or buyout. Carolina ends up waiting to sign him for free instead of trading.
 
It would be bad optics for Carolina to back out of an agreed upon deal just b/c the league insisted the deal couldn't be finalized until July 9.
How will Carolina recover as an NHL franchise?
 
It never fails to amaze me how the arc of player value always bends back in the Canes' favor. People made fun of the Kotkaniemi trade and contract. Well, in year 1/8 at age 22, he was worth more than his cap hit. Skjei too seemed questionable, and look at him now. The Canes wanted to sign DeAngelo a year ago, but they had his value pegged at ~$3MM. Well, now they get him at $1.6MM (just like they got him for $1MM last time). With a 2nd and 3rd and 4th.
 
I’m not sure Carolina would really care too much about Rizzo. He’s likely a fourth liner if he even makes it.

I’d imagine the $1.6M cap hit/salary was more appealing to them than the $2.5M. I’m guessing they realized DeAngelo wanted to come back & the Flyers didn’t have any other cards to play other the trade or buyout so they let them go through with it.
 
It never fails to amaze me how the arc of player value always bends back in the Canes' favor. People made fun of the Kotkaniemi trade and contract. Well, in year 1/8 at age 22, he was worth more than his cap hit. Skjei too seemed questionable, and look at him now. The Canes wanted to sign DeAngelo a year ago, but they had his value pegged at ~$3MM. Well, now they get him at $1.6MM (just like they got him for $1MM last time). With a 2nd and 3rd and 4th.
One exception was Gardiner, who I think had a bad back.
 
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So those keeping track:

Carolina signed ADA twice at ZERO cost both times and paid him 1M and 1.6M for 2 years of service. So 2.6M for 2 years of service and no acquisition cost.

Philly pays a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounder, pays him 5M last year, and 1.67 M this year, and 1.67 next year to not play for them. So 8.34M for 1 year of service and 3 picks to aquire.

It really is laughable the difference in Mgt competence.

Reminder, ADA was not a mistake in some people's eyes. Even in hindsight.
 
So those keeping track:

Carolina signed ADA twice at ZERO cost both times and paid him 1M and 1.6M for 2 years of service. So 2.6M for 2 years of service and no acquisition cost.

Philly pays a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounder, pays him 5M last year, and 1.67 M this year, and 1.67 next year to not play for them. So 8.34M for 1 year of service and 3 picks to aquire.

It really is laughable the difference in Mgt competence.

Reminder, ADA was not a mistake in some people's eyes. Even in hindsight.

Fletcher is at minimum as bad as Milbury. When you factor in that he didn't have to deal with the publicly known cheapskate owner, I'd say he is worse.
 
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