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Sombastate said:
I don't like asking these questions on the mainboard, because that place is just a cesspool

But let's say Connor hits 65/150

Does he have an argument for the greatest season of all time (adjusted for for era, of course)
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I would say yes tbh. It would be comparable to Gretzky’s 82-86ish scoring peak. Same goes for 88-89 Lemieux. Once you’re in that territory, it’s personal preference.

I believe if you go by pure scoring adjusted for league average, the leader by a good bit is still Howie Morenz’s 28-29. That era was so different, I would understand counting it or not.
 
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Beef Invictus said:
I wish someone from the future had told me in 2017 that an Edmonton-Buffalo game would be vastly better hockey than anything the Flyers were drooling out, after the Flyers had transformed into the worst-era Devils and Rangers. I could have saved a lot of effort by selling all my things and living the rest of my life in a sewer instead.
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It’s worse though.

 
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Sombastate said:
Just being the math nerd that I am, I'd love to see the formula for era adjustment. But I honestly don't feel like getting my ass beat by @Appleyard
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I often worry about these adjustments failing to take into account quality of teammates. But that's where the fun discussion comes in.

McDavid has a whole lot less around him than Gretzky. Probably less than 88 Lemieux too. Mario having Coffey still doing elite play driving and offense from the back is something McDavid has never come close to having. Would've really opened things up more on offense too.
 
Sombastate said:
I don't like asking these questions on the mainboard, because that place is just a cesspool

But let's say Connor hits 65/150

Does he have an argument for the greatest season of all time (adjusted for for era, of course)
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Easily. Gretzky played against gym teachers.

A moderately intelligent dolphin could score on 80s goalies.
 
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Sombastate said:
I don't like asking these questions on the mainboard, because that place is just a cesspool

But let's say Connor hits 65/150

Does he have an argument for the greatest season of all time (adjusted for for era, of course)
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That's a question only @Appleyard can answer
 
Beef Invictus said:
Yeah, just like Mario. Gym teachers, I say!



Check out that 44 bum getting burned all the time. Bet that guy is pumping dodgeballs now.
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1) that video is from a 1996 game, I was talking about the 80s because that’s when Gretzky had his highest scoring season.

2) Youre right, I was being unfair. I shouldn’t have compared gym teachers to those 80s NHL bums. There’s actually some gym teachers out there who are in pretty good shape, while 80s games look identical to present day alumni games. 70s are even worse.
 
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Striiker said:
1) that video is from a 1996 game, I was talking about the 80s because that’s when Gretzky had his highest scoring season.

2) Youre right, I was being unfair. I shouldn’t have compared gym teachers to those 80s NHL bums. There’s actually some gym teachers out there who are in pretty good shape, while 80s games look identical to present day alumni games. 70s are even worse.
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I love that you'll die on this hill.
 
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Striiker said:
1) that video is from a 1996 game, I was talking about the 80s because that’s when Gretzky had his highest scoring season.

2) Youre right, I was being unfair. I shouldn’t have compared gym teachers to those 80s NHL bums. There’s actually some gym teachers out there who are in pretty good shape, while 80s games look identical to present day alumni games. 70s are even worse.
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You do realize Gretzky played in the 1990s right?

In his final season he scored 63 points.

Is Gretzky's totals likely inflated compared to this generation? Probably. Most likely he'd still be #1 all time.
 
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Lindberg said:
You do realize Gretzky played in the 1990s right?

In his final season he scored 63 points.

Is Gretzky's totals likely inflated compared to this generation? Probably. Most likely he'd still be #1 all time.
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Show me one player who was a point per game player in the 80s who has even scored at a 0.50 p/pg pace from 2020 onwards. One. Just one. Anyone at all.

They can’t keep up. The game is on a different level now.
 
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Striiker said:
Show me one player who was a point per game player in the 80s who has even scored at a 0.50 p/pg pace from 2020 onwards. One. Just one. Anyone at all.

They can’t keep up. The game is on a different level now.
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Well.... all those guys have long been retired.

The game is also significantly softer so there's that.
 
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