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BiggE · 2024-10-30T19:23:26-0400

Flyers have already shopped Risto, here’s the best offer so far,

deadhead · 2024-10-30T21:02:53-0400

Surprised San Jose gave up a 3rd (better of Col and Edm 3rd rd picks) and 6th.
Liljegren is a former #17 pick, but at 25 couldn't keep a starting job.
2x3, where Benning is a 2x1.25 left on his deal, so Toronto clears $1.75M off their cap this year and next year.
And they can clear another $1.25 by sending Benning to the AHL.

JojoTheWhale · 2024-10-30T21:15:02-0400

deadhead said:
Surprised San Jose gave up a 3rd (better of Col and Edm 3rd rd picks) and 6th.
Liljegren is a former #17 pick, but at 25 couldn't keep a starting job.
2x3, where Benning is a 2x1.25 left on his deal, so Toronto clears $1.75M off their cap this year and next year.
And they can clear another $1.25 by sending Benning to the AHL.

A 3rd gets you a terrible rental Defenseman at the deadline. Liljegren is just fine, but still better than that. It's not a steal or anything, but it seems about right to me for a young guy who won't kill you. Especially considering they took Benning back, who is horrendous.

Also feels like it has upside for a return next year if they can turn him around.

Cody Webster · 2024-10-30T21:16:59-0400

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BackToTheBrierePatch · 2024-10-30T21:27:22-0400

Frank is a national treasure

Kelmitchell2 · 2024-10-30T23:00:17-0400

Watching the devils game and their broadcast, why in the hell does their broadcaster sound like eeore? Lol he sounds so depressed everytime he speaks, "yeah, dougie did a good job there" lmfao

blackjackmulligan · 2024-10-31T08:11:46-0400

deadhead said:
Surprised San Jose gave up a 3rd (better of Col and Edm 3rd rd picks) and 6th.
Liljegren is a former #17 pick, but at 25 couldn't keep a starting job.
2x3, where Benning is a 2x1.25 left on his deal, so Toronto clears $1.75M off their cap this year and next year.
And they can clear another $1.25 by sending Benning to the AHL.

Why is it surprising? Sharks take a flyer on a guy who needs a change of scenery. It is a no risk move that has potential to pay off. Smart move really.

He is a bad fit for how the Leafs it seems want to build their D. If the Flyers acquired him you would be saying what deal Danny made.

Curufinwe · 2024-10-31T08:58:56-0400

jFresh said he struggled with the ferocity of the forecheck in the playoffs, which is important for Toronto but basically irrelevant to a team like San Jose

deadhead · 2024-10-31T09:43:48-0400

Liljegren is 25 and has been up and down, he's sort of a tweener, not real big, not special offensively, not great defensively. Off to an awful start this season, but had earned an increasing larger role the three previous seasons. Obviously, didn't fit what Berube wants.

A new start may help him, but given the forwards on Toronto, if a D-man can't score there they probably can't score anywhere. And he's not a defensive maven. So it's more of a depth move for San Jose, giving up a late 3rd rd pick.

San Jose is a funny team, obviously rebuilding, yet they've traded away their 5th and 6th this year, 3rd, 5th and 6th next season, and 3rd rd pick in 2027. Guess they don't value later round picks?

Striiker · 2024-10-31T10:08:03-0400

I’ll never understand why the Flyers are wasting time with the draft when they can just trade for trash players and fix them like they did with Ristolainen.

ponder719 · 2024-10-31T10:32:21-0400

deadhead said:
San Jose is a funny team, obviously rebuilding, yet they've traded away their 5th and 6th this year, 3rd, 5th and 6th next season, and 3rd rd pick in 2027. Guess they don't value later round picks?

Reasonable chance they'll be able to replenish those picks by the deadline. They have 8 pending UFAs on their roster (though I think at least one is an AHLer up to cover injuries) and I would be shocked if they don't trade a minimum of 2 of them before the end of the season, probably more. Granlund, Ceci, and one of Vanecek or Blackwood probably net them more than they've given up so far.

JojoTheWhale · 2024-10-31T10:42:30-0400

I don’t even like what San Jose is doing, but I would look at where those picks went and when before drawing conclusions.

blackjackmulligan · 2024-10-31T10:47:05-0400

deadhead said:
Liljegren is 25 and has been up and down, he's sort of a tweener, not real big, not special offensively, not great defensively. Off to an awful start this season, but had earned an increasing larger role the three previous seasons. Obviously, didn't fit what Berube wants.

A new start may help him, but given the forwards on Toronto, if a D-man can't score there they probably can't score anywhere. And he's not a defensive maven. So it's more of a depth move for San Jose, giving up a late 3rd rd pick.

San Jose is a funny team, obviously rebuilding, yet they've traded away their 5th and 6th this year, 3rd, 5th and 6th next season, and 3rd rd pick in 2027. Guess they don't value later round picks?

What were the picks traded for? Need some context.

Hanover Fist · 2024-10-31T10:48:16-0400

Striiker said:
I’ll never understand why the Flyers are wasting time with the draft when they can just trade for trash players and fix them like they did with Ristolainen.

Only took 3years to fix Risto so in 2 Drysdale should be finished product

deadhead · 2024-10-31T10:58:52-0400

Duclair for Lorentz and 2025 5th
Grunland, Hoffman, Rutta, 2024 1st for Karlsson and 2026 3rd
Studnicka for Cicek and 2026th 4th
Thompson and 2024 3rd, for Duclair and 2025 7th
Edstrom and 2025 1st for Hertl, 2025 3rd, 2027 3rd
Cooley for 2025 7th
Dellandrea for 2025 4th
2024 3rd for 2024 3rd, 2025 6th
Ceci and 2025 3rd for Emberson
Askarov, Burke and 2025 3rd for 2025 1st

Flyerfan4life · 2024-10-31T11:14:20-0400

Striiker said:
I’ll never understand why the Flyers are wasting time with the draft when they can just trade for trash players and fix them like they did with Ristolainen.

#landofbrokenToys

LegionOfDoom91 · 2024-10-31T11:15:10-0400

I wouldn’t really take Brad Treliving’s declarations on players as gospel.

Curufinwe · 2024-10-31T12:10:49-0400

Torts has turned the Flyers around... in shootouts. Ranked 5th best in S/O win% in the last 2+ seasons at .643. In the previous 17 seasons they were dead last at .360.

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