NHL Talk Miscellaneous NHL Discussion CIX: Processing a Tremendous Amount of Insane Information

[Cody Webster]

I'll be happy if Drysdale ends up like Ghost, 3rd pair, PP1 QB. That's all I expect.
York, Sanheim, Bonk and a player to be named later (probably drafted this summer) as the top 4.
Drysdale, Mills, Sotheran, Andrae, McDonald bringing up the rear.

Knock Torts all you want, but name all the players who played better after they left him.
Dubois, Seth Jones, . . .
Panarin was an elite scorer in CBJ, just had better talent around him in NY.
(2.80 pp/60 his 2nd season in CBJ, then 3.28, 3.04, 2.53, 2.45, 2.86 in NY)

Karlsson the only one who comes to mind, mostly b/c he wasn't behind 2 other young centers in Vegas.

What will make or break the Flyers will be Briere's decisions over the next 12 months or so.

Which Ghost? The one who was a solid 2nd pair guy or the one after his knees started to go and became a 3rd pair/PP 1 guy on good teams (1st pair on Zona, AMac was 1st pair on the Islanders).

I'd be happy with the later as the floor and the former as his ceiling.

You want to pair Drysdale with a physical, D-first partner to CYA.

The two strong spots? Wing and RHD.
The weak spots, LHD and Center.

Think we'll draft at least one LHD this summer, along with another C, hard not to, with so many picks in the top 40 (probably 5).

Your words, not mine

Drysdale needs a lot of work on defense, which makes you wonder about Anaheim's development and coaching. Could be as bad as Buffalo (see all the players who left and did better).

Flyers know that, that will be the focus with him this season, one reason they wanted to pair him with Seeler.

Were really questioning Anaheim's development and coaching? When was the last time the Flyers fully developed a prospect?

 

[FlyerNutter]

Your words, not mine

Were really questioning Anaheim's development and coaching? When was the last time the Flyers fully developed a prospect?

Someone worth an actual damn?

Claude Giroux, and Sean Couturier.

 

[PDX Flyer]

Someone worth an actual damn?

Claude Giroux, and Sean Couturier.

Coots is a stretch. They tried to make him a third line checking center. He basically had to go to management and demand a more offensive role. He developed in spite of the Flyers, not because of their ability

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[renberg]

Your words, not mine

When was the last time the Flyers fully developed a prospect?

TK.

As for Drysdale’s lack of development while in Anaheim, he was just thrown to the wolves. A first rounder must play thing. Bad coaching with little help from partners on the back end. The Ducks played a lot of zone defense and played it badly.

 

[deadhead]

Were really questioning Anaheim's development and coaching? When was the last time the Flyers fully developed a prospect?

Sanheim, York. TK, Farabee (his struggles have been due to the neck injury)
Tippett after Florida screwed him up.
Foerster coming along nicely, Cates has grossly outperformed his 5th rd status.
Seeler, from AHL to NHL starter
Frost has developed, but slower than expected

Lindblom was progressing nicely until cancer.
Patrick, we'll never know after his brains got scrambled
Allison was sidetrack by injuries, same with Laberge
Rubtsov, JOB were "failures" by D+2. Ginning, NAK were overdrafted
Ratliffe might be the biggest potential development failure, along with Hagg
Attard, Andrae, Brink, incomplete grade

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Sanheim, York. TK, Farabee (his struggles have been due to the neck injury)
Tippett after Florida screwed him up.
Foerster coming along nicely, Cates has grossly outperformed his 5th rd status.
Seeler, from AHL to NHL starter
Frost has developed, but slower than expected

Lindblom was progressing nicely until cancer.
Patrick, we'll never know after his brains got scrambled
Allison was sidetrack by injuries, same with Laberge
Rubtsov, JOB were "failures" by D+2. Ginning, NAK were overdrafted
Ratliffe might be the biggest potential development failure, along with Hagg
Attard, Andrae, Brink, incomplete grade

Farabee wasn't lighting it up before surgery. So to put it all on that is wrong.
Florida didn't screw up Tippet.
Seeler was much older.

How much is coaching/development compared to these guys just naturally progressing? TK for example. Development or more he was always talented now figuring it out more as he progresses.

Just bad picks is the bottom line.