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[Curufinwe]

Watched a bit of Jackets/Jets tonight. Provorov was playing on the right with Werenski.

Why did the Flyers ever cater to this guy?

Was there ever a dumber argument made than:

We can’t trade Provorov cause then who will play the hard minutes?

 

[FLYguy3911]

Nope

 

[YamCork]

Caps 5 goals on 7 shots

 

[GKJ]

 

[CutOnDime97]

Just finished reading this, highly recommend it. Really entertaining and a bunch of stories I'd never heard before

The Down Goes Brown History of the NHL: The World's Most Beautiful Sport, the World's Most Ridiculous League|Paperback

 

[CutOnDime97]

 

[Striiker]

Watched a bit of Jackets/Jets tonight. Provorov was playing on the right with Werenski.

Why did the Flyers ever cater to this guy?

Provorov played a lot of minutes

Great players play a lot of minutes

Therefore, Provorov must be a great player

You don’t force great players out of their preferred positions. You make everyone else suffer and cater to their every wish so they don’t throw a tantrum.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Provorov played a lot of minutes

Great players play a lot of minutes

Therefore, Provorov must be a great player

You don’t force great players out of their preferred positions. You make everyone else suffer and cater to their every wish so they don’t throw a tantrum.

Provorov ever pass through waivers?

 

[Striiker]

Provorov ever pass through waivers?

Provorov ever provide positive on ice value?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Provorov ever provide positive on ice value?

Answer my question!

 

[Striiker]

Answer my question!

I'd really rather avoid answering, if thats ok with you.

 

[Adtar02]

That always s

The Flyers weren't in their "rebuild" when they chose to not entertain the idea of re-signing Giroux that offseason.

Screamed Clarke didn’t want his records broke and coaches blaming the better players for poor coaching and losing the locker room

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

That always s

creamed Clarke didn’t want his records broke and coaches blaming the better players for poor coaching and losing the locker room

I don’t think I can go that far although it is within Clarke’s character.

I do believe though that the Flyers were insulted by Giroux using his contract to control where he went in a trade. They don’t like when people do that. Be a f***ing Flyer.

 

[deadhead]

I think it was more CF not wanting to commit to paying real money to a 35 year old wing.
At that point, CF couldn't figure out if he was coming or going.

It made sense not to bring him back if they were starting to rebuild, but it made no sense not trade Risto or to trade for TDA.

Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I think it was more CF not wanting to commit to paying real money to a 35 year old wing.
At that point, CF couldn't figure out if he was coming or going.

It made sense not to bring him back if they were starting to rebuild, but it made no sense not trade Risto or to trade for TDA.

Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

Probably because he wasn’t rebuilding and that’s just made up fantasy in your head to absolve shitty decisions.

 

[deadhead]

Probably because he wasn’t rebuilding and that’s just made up fantasy in your head to absolve shitty decisions.

Of course he wasn't rebuilding, his boss (Scott) was adamant that they weren't rebuilding.
It wasn't until Torts said it the word was even mentioned around the Flyers offices.

This is the 2nd year of Briere's rebuild, his decision to move assets into the 2025 draft (trading #32 for Edmonton's 1st for example) makes it clear they don't expect to seriously compete until 2027 or 2028.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Of course he wasn't rebuilding, his boss (Scott) was adamant that they weren't rebuilding.
It wasn't until Torts said it the word was even mentioned around the Flyers offices.

This is the 2nd year of Briere's rebuild, his decision to move assets into the 2025 draft (trading #32 for Edmonton's 1st for example) makes it clear they don't expect to seriously compete until 2027 or 2028.

So then he wasn’t trying to figure out if he was coming or going and just made stupid decisions when building a team that was trying to win.

Signing and acquiring bad players when attempting to compete is bad management. Not signing good players is bad management.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

weird so many metro teams doing better this season

i was told that wouldnt happen..the Flyers were building the right way...

 

[Hanover Fist]

weird so many metro teams doing better this season

i was told that wouldnt happen..the Flyers were building the right way...

They are “ rebuilding “ they are just playing the long game version

 

[Flyerfan4life]

They are “ rebuilding “ they are just playing the long game version

like 50+ years long...

 

[Beef Invictus]

Of course he wasn't rebuilding, his boss (Scott) was adamant that they weren't rebuilding.
It wasn't until Torts said it the word was even mentioned around the Flyers offices.

This is the 2nd year of Briere's rebuild, his decision to move assets into the 2025 draft (trading #32 for Edmonton's 1st for example) makes it clear they don't expect to seriously compete until 2027 or 2028.

Tortorella has also never been rebuilding.

The reason you have to contort the facts so severely to fabricate a rebuild, is that there has never been a rebuild.

 

[Curufinwe]

Meltzer is moving on from HBuzz, so zero point going there anymore.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

Meltzer is moving on from HBuzz, so zero point going there anymore.

Man was fun reading Bill on Hbuzz when he wasn't a complete shill. Haven't been there in awhile

 

[BiggE]

Man was fun reading Bill on Hbuzz when he wasn't a complete shill. Haven't been there in awhile

I still check in, he might be on the payroll but he does a decent job covering the team. Now, yeah, probably no need to dive into Ek’s cesspool anymore.

 

[freakydallas13]

I still check in, he might be on the payroll but he does a decent job covering the team. Now, yeah, probably no need to dive into Ek’s cesspool anymore.

He is the only beat on the payroll to say anything even slightly critical of the team at this point, especially against Torts.