Miscellaneous NHL Discussion C: The centenarian of threads

[BernieParent]

Sounds like he needs Hart

And Brain.

 

[Audible Velvet]

And Brain.

The courage doesn’t seem to be lacking

 

[Curufinwe]

From 2017-19, the Flyers were 4th in xGF/60 and 19th in GF/60. They underperformed their league best xGF/60 in 16-17 too.

The Flyers always had the issue of having an elite PP1 and a non-functional PP2. Now, they're among worst teams on the PP in generating xG AND actual goals, year after year, while having two non-functional units. Progress, baby.

I don't really have an opinion on Knoblauch's tenure, other than, by default, he's vastly superior to Michel Therrien and Rocky Thompson. High praise indeed. The Flyers for a long time have been organizationally lost when it comes to the PP.

The Flyers deserve some sort of award for getting 7 combined PP points out of Frost and Farabee over the last ~100 games.

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[FLYguy3911]

Beniers is a dash 14 already?

Is there a coach whose life depends on unsustainable shooting percentages more than Dave Hakstol? Looks like another one of those years.

Can’t believe they sent Ryker Evans back to the AHL after he went PPG in the playoffs.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Beniers is a dash 14 already?

Is there a coach whose life depends on unsustainable shooting percentages more than Dave Hakstol? Looks like another one of those years.

Can’t believe they sent Ryker Evans back to the AHL after he went PPG in the playoffs.

One of the EW twins said that last year's Kraken are the team to most outperform their xGs offensively in their entire database. I just nodded quietly.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Beniers is a dash 14 already?

Is there a coach whose life depends on unsustainable shooting percentages more than Dave Hakstol? Looks like another one of those years.

Can’t believe they sent Ryker Evans back to the AHL after he went PPG in the playoffs.

I listened to Dale Weise on Nasty Knuckles last night. They didn’t really go in great detail but just listening to other podcasts when he’d talk about it the dude still holds a grudge against Hakstol & Fletcher.

He concocted this narrative though that Hakstol only held the bottom of the lineup accountable & that’s the reason the team struggled.

 

[VladDrag]

One of the EW twins said that last year's Kraken are the team to most outperform their xGs offensively in their entire database. I just nodded quietly.

I remember looking into this last year when talking with LoD91. I remember they were significantly outperforming their xG, but they were crushing the team gar/xgar models. They finished last year 2nd and 3rd for ESO gar/xgar, respectively. They were also very good at retrievals, and controlled exits, and as a result the generated more on the rush than cycle (per all three zones). At the time I wondered if they were outproducing their xG model because the RTSS dataset can't always detect a rush shot from a cycle shot (for example if it's a clean breakout without any detectable NZ events). We know rush shots are more dangerous than cycle shots, in general.

Maybe you can shed some light on this, but I'm not sure how gar/xgar is applied teams. My understanding is that gar/xgar is for an individual player. I assume it's a summation of all players on a roster, but I don't know.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Maybe you can shed some light on this, but I'm not sure how gar/xgar is applied teams. My understanding is that gar/xgar is for an individual player. I assume it's a summation of all players on a roster, but I don't know.

I assume so, but I can't be sure because there's still no xGAR writeup. I believe this is Year 2 or 3 of it coming soon.

 

[Chinatown88]

I assume so, but I can't be sure because there's still no xGAR writeup. I believe this is Year 2 or 3 of it coming soon.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Choose your fighter!

 

[pit]

Saw this on reddit and I have the mentality of a 12 year old, so I'm sharing it with all of you:

The Streak of Penis Releated Names of Oilers Head Coaches Continues​

Ken HitchCOCK
Dave TIPpett
Jay WOODcroft
Kris KNOBlauch

 

[landsbergfan]

Saw this on reddit and I have the mentality of a 12 year old, so I'm sharing it with all of you:

The Streak of Penis Releated Names of Oilers Head Coaches Continues​

Ken HitchCOCK
Dave TIPpett
Jay WOODcroft
Kris KNOBlauch

They need to play harder

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

@Striiker Edmonton media member Marc Spector.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

@Striiker Edmonton media member Marc Spector.

The cause of this ridiculous article.

 

[Striiker]

The cause of this ridiculous article.

These entitled idiots egos are f***ing insane.

God I hate them all so much.



I know you’re lurking, Charlie. Youre awful too.

 

[FLYguy3911]

They need to play harder

Sounds like somewhere Ghost could finally fit in.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I listened to Dale Weise on Nasty Knuckles last night. They didn’t really go in great detail but just listening to other podcasts when he’d talk about it the dude still holds a grudge against Hakstol & Fletcher.

He concocted this narrative though that Hakstol only held the bottom of the lineup accountable & that’s the reason the team struggled.

Hextall doesn’t really catch much flak from Weise but I guess I wouldn’t really bash the guy who gave me the best payday of my career either.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Sounds like somewhere Ghost could finally fit in.

Ghost doesn’t fit anywhere with that…

 

[kudymen]

Sounds like somewhere Ghost could finally fit in.

I genuinely laughed at who was the first "Like" of your post

 

[landsbergfan]

 

[chadateit]

Ummm. that list is absolutely dumbfounding. Since 1987??? Jesus. And people keep hiring this guy.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Beniers is a dash 14 already?

Is there a coach whose life depends on unsustainable shooting percentages more than Dave Hakstol? Looks like another one of those years.

Can’t believe they sent Ryker Evans back to the AHL after he went PPG in the playoffs.

This year the shooting percentages are bad. That team can’t score goals

 

[CerpinTaxt]

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Man I know its so unlikely, but among all the reasons to try and trade for McDavid #1 would be to troll John. Imagine McDavid being coached by John Tortorella

 

[Beef Invictus]

I remember looking into this last year when talking with LoD91. I remember they were significantly outperforming their xG, but they were crushing the team gar/xgar models. They finished last year 2nd and 3rd for ESO gar/xgar, respectively. They were also very good at retrievals, and controlled exits, and as a result the generated more on the rush than cycle (per all three zones). At the time I wondered if they were outproducing their xG model because the RTSS dataset can't always detect a rush shot from a cycle shot (for example if it's a clean breakout without any detectable NZ events). We know rush shots are more dangerous than cycle shots, in general.

Maybe you can shed some light on this, but I'm not sure how gar/xgar is applied teams. My understanding is that gar/xgar is for an individual player. I assume it's a summation of all players on a roster, but I don't know.

Watching Seattle, they are way more likely to let forwards set up chances for each other than to fling everything to the blue line and around the boards always. Either Hakstol has learned, or this is what he would be without an organization screaming "SAFETY! DEFENSE!" into his skull.