Minnesota Wild General Discussion 2024-25

[Luceni]

Lines today.....not to beat a dead horse, but Trenin gets moved up, and........we're just gonna keep going with what hasn't worked?

Now Rossi gets to deal with Mojo on the 3rd line. Make it make sense.

 

[Sweetnut]

Lines today.....not to beat a dead horse, but Trenin gets moved up, and........we're just gonna keep going with what hasn't worked?

Now Rossi gets to deal with Mojo on the 3rd line. Make it make sense.

Freddy line is #3, Rossi line is #2. He (the writer) just put it this way. There's zero chance Treniyawn plays in the 2d, and Johansson is always in the 2d.

 

[Luceni]

Freddy line is #3, Rossi line is #2. He (the writer) just put it this way. There's zero chance Treniyawn plays in the 2d, and Johansson is always in the 2d.

Still no explanation why they keep their best scorer behind kap away from the 1C spot, which he kinda earned with his play so far this season.

 

[Webster]

Still no explanation why they keep their best scorer behind kap away from the 1C spot, which he kinda earned with his play so far this season.

Yeah when they can't score (0 @ Sens) they need to put the guys who had success together on the top line, the last time Kap was out. Eriksson Ek at 0.62 PPG really isn't a top line center, he works better on the 2nd.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

I never said that the lines couldn't be changed. All I said is that the starting point should be to put the 2 best offensive players together, and go from there. Unless they are McDavid/Draisaitl or MacKinnon/Rantanen, I think you risk neutering both of them much more than a prospective "spreading the wealth" benefit. Obviously if the line sucks, or the team sucks, you can adapt.

There is a reason, and what I think is a very compelling reason, why other teams in the league don't jump at the chance to play their best offensive center with guys pacing 31 and 18 points, respectively. At least I don't think so, I guess I haven't looked around the league too much lately.

Personally, I think the plan was to try and get Eriksson Ek going last game. Rossi has shown chemistry with Foligno in the past.

No other team has as shitty of winger depth as us. Our depth was terrible before Kaprizov and Johansson went out with injuries. So, if they don’t put Rossi between Boldy and Zucc, you’re getting 3rd/4th line level players. That’s how it works when you’re down your franchise winger and another middle 6 winger (that has been playing top 6).

 

[Luceni]

Rossi has shown chemistry with Foligno in the past.

Whats that chemestry between Rossi & Foligno BS about, are their stats that prove that statement?

When did this happen? I've watched the Wild closely the past few years and I can't recall that Foligno & Rossi ever had the slightest chemestry. Foligno was used as Rossis physical bodyguard in his Rookie season, yes. But I can't say that Foligno ever had a positive impact on Rossis game.

Now Foligno has lost another step this season, it's ridiculous that they still try to ride a dead horse when they put those two onto one line when Rossi has clearly earned the 1C spot this season. It makes no sense to play the second best scorer on the team with scrubs to get others going.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I really hope we're not in trouble with that % of the cap talk. I read it 3 times, and each time I'm hoping I misread it.

 

[Minnewildsota]

Whats that chemestry between Rossi & Foligno BS about, are their stats that prove that statement?

When did this happen? I've watched the Wild closely the past few years and I can't recall that Foligno & Rossi ever had the slightest chemestry. Foligno was used as Rossis physical bodyguard in his Rookie season, yes. But I can't say that Foligno ever had a positive impact on Rossis game.

Now Foligno has lost another step this season, it's ridiculous that they still try to ride a dead horse when they put those two onto one line when Rossi has clearly earned the 1C spot this season. It makes no sense to play the second best scorer on the team with scrubs to get others going.

Yes.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Whats that chemestry between Rossi & Foligno BS about, are their stats that prove that statement?

When did this happen? I've watched the Wild closely the past few years and I can't recall that Foligno & Rossi ever had the slightest chemestry. Foligno was used as Rossis physical bodyguard in his Rookie season, yes. But I can't say that Foligno ever had a positive impact on Rossis game.

Now Foligno has lost another step this season, it's ridiculous that they still try to ride a dead horse when they put those two onto one line when Rossi has clearly earned the 1C spot this season. It makes no sense to play the second best scorer on the team with scrubs to get others going.

I’m not sure you said a single factual thing in this entire post. Quite impressive.

Ope, you did say one thing I agree with. Rossi has earned the spot of 1C. He’s also been getting the most 5v5 minutes amongst centers. Most of his time this season was with Kaprizov (when he was healthy). I just think it’s funny that every blue moon Rossi gets move around and people throw a hissy fit. Look up the stats or shut up.

 

[AKL]

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Bettman weighed in Thursday, making it clear that he thinks the Wild deserve public money because of what they and the arena do for downtown St. Paul, the surrounding community and the state.

“This building is what, 25 years old now?” Bettman said. “It was designed very well for hockey, but it’s no longer state-of-the-art. It needs a refresh. I’m also mindful of the fact that the other three major sports teams have all gotten stadiums or upgrades with a public-private partnership. Craig obviously is prepared to participate. The Wild are.

“He is a fan of and committed to St Paul. Though he probably has options, he’s not exploring them because this is where he wants to be and he wants the team to be, and he’s been committed to St Paul for every breathing moment that he’s owned the team.”

Interesting threat from Bettman on his way out the door, considering one of the first things he oversaw when he became commissioner was the North Stars relocation to Dallas.

Obviously I don't believe the Wild will relocate, this is just a ploy, and they'll figure something out at the Xcel. It's just not a great way to endear yourself to the fans. But then, he's always been a tool.

 

[chchelseII]

I really hope we're not in trouble with that % of the cap talk. I read it 3 times, and each time I'm hoping I misread it.

You mean the part where our GM doesn’t understand how the cap works?

 

[NHL1674]

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Interesting threat from Bettman on his way out the door, considering one of the first things he oversaw when he became commissioner was the North Stars relocation to Dallas.

Obviously I don't believe the Wild will relocate, this is just a ploy, and they'll figure something out at the Xcel. It's just not a great way to endear yourself to the fans. But then, he's always been a tool.

That's rich coming from Bettman after he spent decades doing the opposite of threatening the Yotes. He even let them play in a 5000 seat college arena. Good grief. He can go pound sand.

 

[AKL]

the Yotes.

I think you're just trying to pick fights with me today after I said I generally like Hartman lol

 

[NHL1674]

I think you're just trying to pick fights with me today after I said I generally like Hartman lol

I'm a little lost. What's wrong with the Yotes?

Nope. Not trying to pick a fight. I save that for Digital.

 

[AKL]

I'm a little lost. What's wrong with the Yotes?

I have a few Yotes jerseys hanging in the closet, living in Arizona I adopted them as my second team, I went to the games and had season tickets. Not happy that they left.

 

[NHL1674]

I have a few Yotes jerseys hanging in the closet, living in Arizona I adopted them as my second team, I went to the games and had season tickets. Not happy that they left.

Got it.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

That's rich coming from Bettman after he spent decades doing the opposite of threatening the Yotes. He even let them play in a 5000 seat college arena. Good grief. He can go pound sand.

He’s not saying anything Leipold doesn’t want him to.

 

[AKL]

He’s not saying anything Leipold doesn’t want him to.

Leipold isn't really comin out on top today with the "we may not spend to the cap going forward" remarks while also saying "hey give us public funding to renovate the arena or we have other options to explore"

Thinking it might be about time he gives the fans a successful franchise for once

 

[NHL1674]

He’s not saying anything Leipold doesn’t want him to.

That's a great way for him to get the Norm Green treatment.

 

[AKL]

10 games, that's about right. He better not f around anymore, next time he might get 25 or 40.

 

[AKL]

So he'll be back March 9th against the Penguins, so depending on Kaprizov's timeline, that could be up to a week, and 3 games, that Kaprizov could be back with Hartman still out. That would make it a really tight squeeze for those three games cap-wise.

 

[Sota Popinski]

You mean the part where our GM doesn’t understand how the cap works?

He understands how it works. He probably doesn't think Kaprizov deserves more than McDavid, MacKinnon and Draisaitl just because the cap went up.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Expected. Get to double digits before you get to high double digits.

He understands how it works. He probably doesn't think Kaprizov deserves more than McDavid, MacKinnon and Draisaitl just because the cap went up.

I might not deserve to make more than somebody working in the 70’s and yet I do.

 

[Sota Popinski]

Expected. Get to double digits before you get to high double digits.


I might not deserve to make more than somebody working in the 70’s and yet I do.

So to you 50 years is comparable to 1 or 2 years?

 

[AKL]

He understands how it works. He probably doesn't think Kaprizov deserves more than McDavid, MacKinnon and Draisaitl just because the cap went up.

He won't make more than McDavid, no worry about that.
MacKinnon signed his contract nearly 2.5 years ago, and it'll be 3+ years by the time Kaprizov puts pen to paper. Things have changed dramatically since MacKinnon signed.
Draisaitl, tough to say there.

You know, this year, Kaprizov is at 1.41p/gp, McDavid is at 1.46p/gp, Draisaitl and MacKinnon are at 1.48p/gp. Kaprizov is 5th in that metric behind those three and Kucherov. And he doesn't typically have the benefit of playing with McDavid or Draisaitl, or Makar and Rantanen. Kaprizov's best linemates are at 0.9 and 0.87.

Look at even strength points per game played, he's on the same pace Draisaitl is, leading both MacKinnon and McDavid.

Question, how much do we value the center vs winger debate when Kaprizov is impacting the game at nearly the same level without the same supporting cast? Does it matter that he's a winger when we're talking about the five best players in the world?

I'm not saying he'll get as much as McDavid, maybe not even as much as Draisaitl at 14M...but with how much the cap is going up and his performance on an otherwise pretty inept offensive team? Not saying they're out of line to ask.

And Leipold did make it clear that no one is going to offer more money than he is.