Of course no salary retention when the guy is already a great bargain!Mike Matheson has two years left after this one payng 4.875 million/year. He is a 6'2, 29 year-old Montreal native, he had 34 points in 48 games last year, and has 6 points in 8 games this year.
I vote for "Don't trade Matheson, he's good and young and worth keeping as a top-4 D, at least for now," but I'm curious what others think.
Probability ...the exemple of Mesar is more representative because the % of draftees that will play more than 100 games in the NHL is very low. Then the % of the players that will have the kind of impact Matheson gets, is even lower. In the end, it is more representative to use ac Mesar ( 85 %) instead of a name in the 15 %.First, the Mesar example doesnt work because hes a bust. Why not use Hutson? Why not Roy? Heck, why not Kulich? Should we have held on 29 YO patches? Who needs Suzuki, hes probably a bust like Jake Bean was the year before, right?
And I said Id trade him for a prospect or a younger player, rather than a pick.
The problem with the Suzuki example you just gave us, is exactly why I want to trade Matheson, and why we should trade Suzuki if the team isnt close to competiting in the near future when he is thirty.
Its only a service to fans to keep around such players.
Matheson + late 1stround pick + early 2nd round pick + Beck for Pettersson.Who comes to mind as an Iginla in the making? There cannot be very many of those, especially who are not signed long-term. High skill, high toughness.
An alternate scenario is a budding star, like Pettersson, whom the team knows it cannot keep, dealing from a weak position, where we give Matheson + one of our lesser centers in exchange.
I didn't work out the details, but I wouldn't improve on what you have.Matheson + late 1stround pick + early 2nd round pick + Beck for Pettersson.
Would that be such a trade proposal? Or, did you mean Dvorak?
How much would Pettersson cost to re-sign, something required for this trade to go through?
10M? 11M? 12M? 7 years? 8 years sign and trade?
Caufield - Pettersson - Dach
Newhook - Suzuki - Roy
RHP- Monahan (extended) - Anderson
Heineman - Evans - Ylonen
Gallagher
Guhle - Mailloux
Harris - Barron
Xhekaj - Kovacevic
Savard
At this point Id take a 5th rounder just so that Marty stops using him 25 minutes a game and starts using Guhle like the 1D he is.
Completely utterly R-rated word.
What?? Pettersson and Caufield might go down to Laval? What for? To help Mailloux?!Imagine the PP with both him (Pettersson)and Caufield who can laser it into the top corner (not to mention Mailloux), and Hutson able to get the puck to any of them.
What a poll this is! You have those who want to dump Matheson for a 5th rounder voting TRADE, while those who want to use him to fetch Elias Pettersson are also willing to pull the trade trigger.
Imagine they trade him at some point. Not sure if this year or not. Habs stacked on left D. Unless they get blown awayi won't trade matheson as well. guhle is our future but he still needs to prove himself first, production-wise. no reason to give him all the responsibilities. he'll get there one day.
The price doesnt have to blow your socks off, it could be just fair value and it would set up the Habs good for the future.Man, I really like Matheson, but there are very few untradeable players in the league.
I would trade him if the price blew my socks off.
You reading the post I just made and acting like I really said we should trade him for a 5th is so HF.What a poll this is! You have those who want to dump Matheson for a 5th rounder voting TRADE, while those who want to use him to fetch Elias Pettersson are also willing to pull the trade trigger.
Well personally, I can't do it. Sure I would move him for Pettersson, but I can't vote yes and encourage those who devalue Matheson. Sorry.
Yeah you might have been exaggerating. I get it. I do it too at times!The price doesnt have to blow your socks off, it could be just fair value and it would set up the Habs good for the future.
We could have a similar player to Barron+ for him again. The player would probably statt having an impact this year or next.
You reading the post I just made and acting like I really said we should trade him for a 5th is so HF.
For some folks here being the worst team in the league forever IS the goal.They're not doing the middle ground. They are trying to build for Suzuki/Caufield window. They aren't starting completely over, nor should you when you have young lynchpins like that.
For some folks here being the worst team in the league forever IS the goal.
Larry Robinson and Guy Lapointe took chances too. So did Subban in his best years. As long as the player shows the willingness and the legs to fix the mistakes, the overall result from attempting to drive offense rather than play safe is net positive.I want him playing on this team until he slows down.
Early or late 5th?What a poll this is! You have those who want to dump Matheson for a 5th rounder voting TRADE, while those who want to use him to fetch Elias Pettersson are also willing to pull the trade trigger.
Well personally, I can't do it. Sure I would move him for Pettersson, but I can't vote yes and encourage those who devalue Matheson. Sorry.