Confirmed Signing with Link: [MIN] D Brock Faber signs extension with the Wild (8 years, $8.5M AAV)

[Malkinstheman]

If he wins a norris or something, maybe you pay him 10m. If he sucks, your stuck with an absolute albatross contract. Doesnt really make sense to me. Contracts like this make me wonder if any negotiation even happened. What number could Faber have possibly started at to eventually settle at 8.5m.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

If he wins a norris or something, maybe you pay him 10m. If he sucks, your stuck with an absolute albatross contract. Doesnt really make sense to me. Contracts like this make me wonder if any negotiation even happened. What number could Faber have possibly started at to eventually settle at 8.5m.

Probably $8.51M

We'll do this again:

In the fall of 2023 (less than a year ago), Jake Sanderson signed for 8 years at 9.6% of the current cap at the time and Owen Power signed for 8 years at 10% of the current cap at the time. Cap at the time was $83.5M.

9.6% of the current $88M cap would be $8.48M; 10% of the current cap would be $8.80M. So you can realistically say that those numbers should be ceiling and floor of his negotiations. And crazily enough, he ended up between those two numbers.

 

[johnnybbadd]

Man some of the takes here are hideous. Faber will be the #1 defenceman on the wild for at least the 1st 5 years of this contract and will be top pairing for the duration of the contract. 8.5 for an all situation dman that has the potential to crack 60-70 points every year is a very high commodity. Congrats Minnesota on a very nice piece of business.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Top 10 D in the league during this contract is a real chance.

Top-10 D don’t make $11M.

 

[MuckOG]

Top-10 D don’t make $11M.

They will in 2-3 years with the cap increases

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I wish we would've had the ability to give Kaprizov $11M+ after his 51 points in 55 games. That would've been a fun summer.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I don't think anyone that's really followed his trajectory is surprised, the guy had exponential growth at every level and his baseline is as 'sure-thing' as they come even if he were to add nothing more to his game. I hadn't even thought of the comparisons to Sanderson and Power before this thread, I like that.

I can understand the rest of the folks being like 'after one year?!?' though.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I'd have to look back, but I wonder if folks were saying the same thing about Seth Jones and Darnell Nurse when they signed their deals that are now universally hated.

I'm quite sure everyone knew the Nurse deal was terrible when it was signed.

 

[Soldier13Fox]

Man some of the takes here are hideous. Faber will be the #1 defenceman on the wild for at least the 1st 5 years of this contract and will be top pairing for the duration of the contract. 8.5 for an all situation dman that has the potential to crack 60-70 points every year is a very high commodity. Congrats Minnesota on a very nice piece of business.

The arguments against this contract are bananas. Sure... there's a bit of risk, but way more upside.

 

[PB37]

Season was really good tho


Yep. Going to be amazing towards the back half of it

Is it amazing though if they have to wait 4 years for the contract to turn amazing?

It's a lot for a guy who's had 1 year. If continues to improve, he'll be paid approximately right around where he should be getting paid ( Heiskanen, Sergechev, Pietrangelo money ) in the top 15 for salaries.

 

[ThatGuy22]

I'd have to look back, but I wonder if folks were saying the same thing about Seth Jones and Darnell Nurse when they signed their deals that are now universally hated.

Seth Jones contract was universally hated st the time it was signed if I remember correctly.

 

[centipede2233]

He’s a Rd, RD are a premium, it’s worth it solely based on that

 

[MXD]

I'm quite sure everyone knew the Nurse deal was terrible when it was signed.

Same for Jones' deal.

 

[Sota Popinski]

Translation : Brock Faber had a better season than Jake Sanderson.

Dude, is this a bit

 

[TotalHomer]

Woof. Reminds me of Ekblad's deal.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Wild are betting he will be this good or better in 3 years when he would likely off a bridge and are betting the cap will be higher.

If both happen then ya, a decent deal for a top pair guy, term in particular.

As noted it could be rough if he falls off.

 

[byrath]

Great deal. Even if he doesn't improve a whit, it'll still be fair value now and good value as the cap rises. I guess it's possible that he peaked in his rookie season at 21, but seems unlikely.
I notice a trend in these threads for very young players signing big contracts. The home team fans are usually 100% happy with it, while a big chunk of the rest moan about how awful and risky it is. I'll trust the home fans that actually watch the player.

 

[n8]

Do better.

Drink more Ovaltine.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Woof. Reminds me of Ekblad's deal.

Faber is better than Ekblad ever was, and he can actually skate.

 

[TotalHomer]

Faber is better than Ekblad ever was, and he can actually skate.

One good year. Nah,

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

One good year. Nah,

He was a better defender in that one year than Ekblad has been in any year.

 

[TotalHomer]

He was a better defender in that one year than Ekblad has been in any year.

Nope.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

I don't like these contracts after just one year.
He in particular looks pretty much a safe thing but still so much money given. Anyways, should be well worth this contract

 

[Faceboner]

Yeah, Brock Faber doesn’t get $11M unless he’s a top-3 defenseman in the entire NHL. He’s not that.

I would say a rising cap will inflate salaries since it takes up less percentage of the cap space

 

[BKarchitect]

If Ekblad hadn’t broken his foot, knee and ankle, nobody would complain about his contract. It didn’t become an anchor because he wasn’t awesome when younger, it became an anchor because his body failed him and turned him into a shell of what he was becoming.

Injury is an inherent risk in any long-term deal. Faber does play a much more nuanced game than Ekblad which puts him at less risk. He’s got incredible skating and a really, really strong base and plays more like a Slavin with his positioning and stick work than an Ekblad. Doesn’t mean he can’t or won’t get hurt but we might as well say every long-term deal is bad if Ekblad’s injury history is anything to go off of.

Poor and lazy comp.