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Player Discussion: Mikhail Sergachev - Part 2

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BoltsOfAnarchy said:
true Hedman didn’t really blossom until his 4th season - Cooper’s 1st year. But serg has only played for Coop here. He needs to take some strides if we’re gonna commit to him long term. I like the kid & wanna see him grow into the 1D we all hope, but he’s got to grow up some. He’s only 22 I get that but he also has tons of games under his belt already
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He has taken massive strides. His dzone draws and ice time have gone way up, his puck possession metrics at ES are way up, he’s blossoming into an amazing defender.
 
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Saw a pic on insta with him repping the A during the pre-season game. A lot of our leaders obviously weren't playing, but it was nice to see him in that role with all the rookies and younger guys. Looked like he was hyping everyone up.

Point future C
Serg future A
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Serge says he wants to improve his offensive game but looking at the numbers he has 136 points in his first 4 seasons. That's tied for 25th most by a dman in the NHL over that span. 92 of them are even strength points - tied for 30th most by nhl dmen over those 4 seasons.

That's still very impressive for a dman from age 19 - 22 who doesn't play on the 1st pp unit either.
 
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TheDaysOf 04 said:
Serge says he wants to improve his offensive game but looking at the numbers he has 136 points in his first 4 seasons. That's tied for 25th most by a dman in the NHL over that span. 92 of them are even strength points - tied for 30th most by nhl dmen over those 4 seasons.

That's still very impressive for a dman from age 19 - 22 who doesn't play on the 1st pp unit either.
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PP time doesn't always equal more points, we've had Serg on PP1 for stretches and it was god awful, that's because his biggest weakness is his decision making on the point, a lot of his shots don't make it though traffic despite having a lethal wrister and his passes feel forced.

There's tons of room for improvement in Sergachev's game, with his skillset and the players he plays with he could have a lot better numbers and I think he knows that.
 
Kid's gotta be smiling like a butcher's dog over the contracts we're seeing league wide. f*** no at paying someone $7 million to rock the 3rd pairing
 
These Are The Days said:
Kid's gotta be smiling like a butcher's dog over the contracts we're seeing league wide. f*** no at paying someone $7 million to rock the 3rd pairing
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He had the most even strength minutes played after Hedman and McD, plays in all situation, that's a bit more valuable than a 3rd pairing label. He had a rough playoffs run but he was given a lot more responsibilities too. I expected more offense production tho, now that was disappointing.
 
Volodya Krutov said:
He had the most even strength minutes played after Hedman and McD, plays in all situation, that's a bit more valuable than a 3rd pairing label. He had a rough playoffs run but he was given a lot more responsibilities too. I expected more offense production tho, now that was disappointing.
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I was very disappointed in him last year. If he cannot improve from it we need to sell high. I'm serious. No more sheltering. No more hand holding. Play with Heddy or McDonagh and lock it down. The guy is absolutely horrible on the PP and can't even give us that as a silver lining. He needs to take the next step or be gone next summer.

I have no interest in the situation being 1 year from today that we are going into the last year of his deal and suddenly we're expecting to pay the dude north of $7 million with "this" being what we can get from him after what will have been 5 full seasons in the NHL. Then we go into year 6 talking about "how much he has grown as a player" and "proving himself" good God. Prove it now


I am also perfectly willing to eat some crow and admit I was wrong if he has a great year and proves me wrong.
 
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These Are The Days said:
I was very disappointed in him last year. If he cannot improve from it we need to sell high. I'm serious. No more sheltering. No more hand holding. Play with Heddy or McDonagh and lock it down. The guy is absolutely horrible on the PP and can't even give us that as a silver lining. He needs to take the next step or be gone next summer.

I have no interest in the situation being 1 year from today that we are going into the last year of his deal and suddenly we're expecting to pay the dude north of $7 million with "this" being what we can get from him after what will have been 5 full seasons in the NHL. Then we go into year 6 talking about "how much he has grown as a player" and "proving himself" good God. Prove it now


I am also perfectly willing to eat some crow and admit I was wrong if he has a great year and proves me wrong.
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He had interview on Russian podcast at summer,and he told that he was dissapointed in his O game and that at the offseason he wil work on being better in offence and much stronger at defence. He was aware of his weaknesses and will work on them at offseason. So hopefully he will make a step forward.
 
Peacedlo said:
He had interview on Russian podcast at summer,and he told that he was dissapointed in his O game and that at the offseason he wil work on being better in offence and much stronger at defence. He was aware of his weaknesses and will work on them at offseason. So hopefully he will make a step forward.
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Man I sure hope so. McDonagh and Hedman aren't going to be around forever
 
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These Are The Days said:
I was very disappointed in him last year. If he cannot improve from it we need to sell high. I'm serious. No more sheltering. No more hand holding. Play with Heddy or McDonagh and lock it down. The guy is absolutely horrible on the PP and can't even give us that as a silver lining. He needs to take the next step or be gone next summer.

I have no interest in the situation being 1 year from today that we are going into the last year of his deal and suddenly we're expecting to pay the dude north of $7 million with "this" being what we can get from him after what will have been 5 full seasons in the NHL. Then we go into year 6 talking about "how much he has grown as a player" and "proving himself" good God. Prove it now


I am also perfectly willing to eat some crow and admit I was wrong if he has a great year and proves me wrong.
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Don't worry there's no chance he's gonna get $7M here when you see what Hedman and McD are getting. Not a chance, and he knows it himself. Money aside, give the kid some time tho, this is the year where he should start to put all things together. He's a dman you know.
 
2 game suspension not cool. Hopefully he learns by watching from the press box
 
2 games is BS- its his first real bad hit and he should have gotten 1 game and only 1 game! For guys like Tom Wilson who regularly make hits like this, and the league only gives a few games here or there is a complete joke! Wilson meant to break Cernak's wrists with his cross check a few days ago and got nothing! That was a play meant solely to injure! Serg's hit on Marner was stupid and not necessary but the size disparity and the speed of the play led to the higher than intended hit!
 
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2 games is BS- its his first real bad hit and he should have gotten 1 game and only 1 game! For guys like Tom Wilson who regularly make hits like this, and the league only gives a few games here or there is a complete joke! Wilson meant to break Cernak's wrists with his cross check a few days ago and got nothing! That was a play meant solely to injure! Serg's hit on Marner was stupid and not necessary but the size disparity and the speed of the play led to the higher than intended hit!
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As a leafs fan my take is this
The league probably looked at it and said it had 3 big no-nos. East-west (blind side hit), check to head and check while the player was vulnerable and unable to properly prepare themselves. I don't know if there's a rule for that last one specifically but the league really frowns upon that and I think it's probably the reason it was 2 games.

If it was a hit in the open, probably no suspension or 1 game max. But because Marner was in the process of being hooked which made him off balance, it made it more dangerous.

So it was a suspension of the action and circumstances and not the damage dealt, just the damage potential.
 
WTF HE was thinking making that hit? I always protected him but this thing, i am glad he is suspended it was dumb play by him
 
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