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Mike Richards VIII Kings vs NHLPA

onlyalad said:
That was my thought with Voynov

It is part of the reason I think Richards will be settle prior to arbitration. They can exclude the drug stuff for court reasons. If the arbiter hears the case every bad situation will be thrown out there
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Voynov wouldn't have been before an arbitrator and the CBA doesn't cover that it would or wouldn't be confidential. So there is no doubt he wouldn't have wanted to appear before the case was taken care of. But the CBA does cover arbitration and says it's confidential. Just don't know if a judge would rule to break it.
 
"Since then, the NHL Players Assn. has filed a grievance but no date has been set for a hearing before an impartial arbitrator."

It's amazing how nobody that went to law school can ever get anything done at a speed comparable to anything done by any other ****ing human on the planet.
 
Herby said:
So, the NHLPA things Voynov has no chance and Richards is going to be reinstated?

Worst case scenario for the Kings.

Hopefully this drags on a little so when the Kings suspend Richards for 6 months his return would be after the playoffs when the cap is not in play.

I don't know how Richards sleeps at night.
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Haha, I bet Mike Richards sleeps better than any of us every night.
 
Did I miss something? How or when did MR lose his work visa? There are posts suggesting he will need to get one from the U.S. Doesn't he already have one? Did it expire?
 
Bandit said:
"Since then, the NHL Players Assn. has filed a grievance but no date has been set for a hearing before an impartial arbitrator."

It's amazing how nobody that went to law school can ever get anything done at a speed comparable to anything done by any other ****ing human on the planet.
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So true.
 
moosehead81 said:
Looks like Richards is going to fight the possession charge. May be risky if he loses but obviously his lawyer must think he has a case. Humphrey is apparently one of the best criminal lawyers in Canada.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...-drug-possession-charge-says-lawyer-1.3222139
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Freidman on the fan 960 this morning said that the grievance hearing will likely take place right before the start of the season.
Richards fighting the charge won't have a weight on the grievance as it will not have taken place yet.
 
moosehead81 said:
Looks like Richards is going to fight the possession charge. May be risky if he loses but obviously his lawyer must think he has a case. Humphrey is apparently one of the best criminal lawyers in Canada.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...-drug-possession-charge-says-lawyer-1.3222139
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"He intends to plead not guilty," David Humphrey, a Toronto-based lawyer representing the 30-year-old former L.A. Kings centre, told CBC News on Thursday. "The intention is to vigorously defend the charge."
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They always say the same **** before every trial. It's nothing but posturing. He was there, he had the drugs in his possession. I mean, what the **** could they possibly argue would be different?
 
YP44 said:
Freidman on the fan 960 this morning said that the grievance hearing will likely take place right before the start of the season.
Richards fighting the charge won't have a weight on the grievance as it will not have taken place yet.
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Will they know Richards' immigration and work visa status? Doesn't seem like the arbitrator can make a decision if he doesn't know whether or not Mike Richards can actually show up to play games in the U.S.

He's a UFA without a team right now.
 
YP44 said:
Freidman on the fan 960 this morning said that the grievance hearing will likely take place right before the start of the season.
Richards fighting the charge won't have a weight on the grievance as it will not have taken place yet.
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True enough but it appears that Richards' career in the NHL looks to be over. I don't think any team will try to sign him until the grievance is settled one way or the other and that likely wouldn't be until almost the new year. The Kings would also seem to be in cap hell until then also. What a friggin' mess. They should have just bought him out, taken the cap hit and sent him on his way. Not sure the uncertainty is any help to the team.
 
Ron said:
They always say the same **** before every trial. It's nothing but posturing. He was there, he had the drugs in his possession. I mean, what the **** could they possibly argue would be different?
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Like me, nobody knows the actual facts but obviously, at this stage, Richards' lawyer thinks the Crown's case is pretty weak and they're looking for an absolute discharge. You're right in that things could change and it may be some posturing but nobody knows the details around the facts of the matter. Going out on a limb, maybe they weren't his drugs; there were two gentlemen in the vehicle at the time. Anything is possible and the burden of proof is on the Crown to get a conviction.
 
KINGS17 said:
Will they know Richards' immigration and work visa status? Doesn't seem like the arbitrator can make a decision if he doesn't know whether or not Mike Richards can actually show up to play games in the U.S.

He's a UFA without a team right now.
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I am guessing the grievance is just if LA had grounds to terminate based on what they new back when they terminated.
 
moosehead81 said:
Like me, nobody knows the actual facts but obviously, at this stage, Richards' lawyer thinks the Crown's case is pretty weak and they're looking for an absolute discharge. You're right in that things could change and it may be some posturing but nobody knows the details around the facts of the matter. Going out on a limb, maybe they weren't his drugs; there were two gentlemen in the vehicle at the time. Anything is possible and the burden of proof is on the Crown to get a conviction.
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But didn't they just delay his next appearance until the DA supplies them with all of the info? They obviously don't have all of the facts then and these comments are posturing if that is the case. I really haven't been keeping up with it all.
 
I would think the whole grievance hearing will be over with by the start of the season. This way the whole cap situation can be applied or not to the entire season, and does not put the Kings in any apparent advantage or disadvantage compared to other teams. Also, if MR wins, I fully expect him to show up where the Kings tell him to report, with his U.S. work visa in hand that he's always had, and he'll be able to travel and go where he wants. Whether any of this changes at some point in time, who knows!! I'd add also I fully expect MR to win his grievance hearing, and also it's quite possible he won't be suspended as well. I'd imagine the arbitrator would reinstate him, and possibly even declare that a suspension by the Kings is not appropriate either.
 
Ron said:
They always say the same **** before every trial. It's nothing but posturing. He was there, he had the drugs in his possession. I mean, what the **** could they possibly argue would be different?
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"those werent my pills, Ive been framed. it must have been that meddling Darryl Sutter trying to ruin my career like always!"
 
Reaper45 said:
But didn't they just delay his next appearance until the DA supplies them with all of the info? They obviously don't have all of the facts then and these comments are posturing if that is the case. I really haven't been keeping up with it all.
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Normally, in my experience, defense lawyers keep things pretty tight to the vest. Unlike the Crown, they're not required to supply anything around what their defense might entail. My sense is Richards' lawyer, for whatever reason- it may even be a procedural flaw, thinks the Crown's case is pretty weak and won't stand up in a trial. The question is does the Crown Attorney think likewise?
 
efhank said:
I would think the whole grievance hearing will be over with by the start of the season. This way the whole cap situation can be applied or not to the entire season, and does not put the Kings in any apparent advantage or disadvantage compared to other teams. Also, if MR wins, I fully expect him to show up where the Kings tell him to report, with his U.S. work visa in hand that he's always had, and he'll be able to travel and go where he wants. Whether any of this changes at some point in time, who knows!! I'd add also I fully expect MR to win his grievance hearing, and also it's quite possible he won't be suspended as well. I'd imagine the arbitrator would reinstate him, and possibly even declare that a suspension by the Kings is not appropriate either.
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I expect the Pope to announce that Mike Richards has been beatified as well.
 
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