Mike Richards IV: Started From The Bottom, Still Here *MOD WARNING Post #194*

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I just don't see this team with a cap penalty being able to "contend" is all.

Look at it this way, having Mike Richards on the roster is a $5.75m cap penalty. I know you like the guy and as of a couple of months ago liked the contract but you are kidding yourself if you think they can contend with almsot $6m in cap space for five more years used on a guy who is at best a fringe NHL'er.

The Kings can have a rookie on a 600-900k contract that couldn't be any worse than MR the last two years, even in the two bad years of the buyout penalty that is still about a million a year in cap savings.
 
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Look at it this way, having Mike Richards on the roster is a $5.75m cap penalty. I know you like the guy and as of a couple of months ago liked the contract but you are kidding yourself if you think they can contend with almsot $6m in cap space for five more years used on a guy who is at best a fringe NHL'er.

The Kings can have a rookie on a 600-900k contract that couldn't be any worse than MR the last two years, even in the two bad years of the buyout penalty that is still about a million a year in cap savings.

I don't see any way Dean can bring Richards or Stoll back and hope to contend for a cup next season. That's not a criticism of Richards or Stoll the person, it simply is related to their ability to perform in the role for which they are needed. These guys simply can't be relied on to check in the way Sutter requires any longer. Four months ago I wouldn't have said that about Stoll, but I don't see how he can have much left in the tank. Richards is going to have to be bought out, and that sucks.

I fear Brown will be in the same boat soon, but for now at least he can skate and keep up. Rumor has it that Brown came to camp in the best shape of his career, so maybe he can find his game. Brown's contract is awful, and he probably can't be moved in a deal.

If Voynov comes back, Dean's best course of action IMO would be to trade a defenseman for a good, young #3 center. I would love a guy like Minnesota's Coyle, but he is probably out of Dean's reach. I'm betting finding #3 centers for Dean to target in the off season has been the pro scouting department's #1 priority as of late.
 
I can't remember the last time Brown has thrown a hit that wasn't by the time the puck already left. You have career AHLers who can do that, the difference is NHL forwards hit when the puck is still there to create separation, when was the last time Brown used his body to create a turnover for his team to take advantage of? There's a lot of questionable cap hits on this team and Brown is among them, I get that a captain gets some leeway, but your play shouldn't deteriorate to the level of a career 4th liner and not a very good one at that. It was unrealistic to expect Brown to remain relevant as a top 6 PWF for the entirety of his contract, but it's his job to retain his utility at least as a serviceable 3rd liner who can step up at times. Yet, Jordan Nolan when he is in the line-up, has been the better player over a worrisomely long time period. Dwight King is BY FAR the better player this season. Brown's quality of play to cap hit ratio has become as bad as anyone's on this team, the only positive aspect of his is that he hits and that he hasn't lost his legs completely yet, 90% of those hits are completely useless these days within the context of what's happening on ice, but hey he hits. His actual play on ice and cap hit are as problematic as anyone's but at least I guess he can still skate so maybe it's salvageable to some degree.
 
Look at it this way, having Mike Richards on the roster is a $5.75m cap penalty. I know you like the guy and as of a couple of months ago liked the contract but you are kidding yourself if you think they can contend with almsot $6m in cap space for five more years used on a guy who is at best a fringe NHL'er.

The Kings can have a rookie on a 600-900k contract that couldn't be any worse than MR the last two years, even in the two bad years of the buyout penalty that is still about a million a year in cap savings.

I think if they can make it through next year than there will be more takers for Richards. His Cap hit will be > than salary and there may be an expansion draft after next season, this will help LA as well.
 
I can't remember the last time Brown has thrown a hit that wasn't by the time the puck already left. You have career AHLers who can do that, the difference is NHL forwards hit when the puck is still there to create separation, when was the last time Brown used his body to create a turnover for his team to take advantage of? There's a lot of questionable cap hits on this team and Brown is among them, I get that a captain gets some leeway, but your play shouldn't deteriorate to the level of a career 4th liner and not a very good one at that. It was unrealistic to expect Brown to remain relevant as a top 6 PWF for the entirety of his contract, but it's his job to retain his utility at least as a serviceable 3rd liner who can step up at times. Yet, Jordan Nolan when he is in the line-up, has been the better player over a worrisomely long time period. Dwight King is BY FAR the better player this season. Brown's quality of play to cap hit ratio has become as bad as anyone's on this team, the only positive aspect of his is that he hits and that he hasn't lost his legs completely yet, 90% of those hits are completely useless these days within the context of what's happening on ice, but hey he hits. His actual play on ice and cap hit are as problematic as anyone's but at least I guess he can still skate so maybe it's salvageable to some degree.

Just read your first sentence and immediately thought of him crushing perry last week.
 
Just read your first sentence and immediately thought of him crushing perry last week.

good example. the problem is these type of hits were a somewhat regular occurrence, we hardly see them at all anymore. Brown is on the decline for sure and his contract will be a problem very soon
 
I think if they can make it through next year than there will be more takers for Richards. His Cap hit will be > than salary and there may be an expansion draft after next season, this will help LA as well.

IMO, this team shouldn't waste a single year of Doughty or Kopitar's prime years. One of the Kings' great advantages has been their quality of play and depth down the middle. If Richards is bought out, his cap hit is greatly reduced over the next 3 seasons and it gives Dean ample cap space to find a replacement that can play the kind of game that position demands in the Kings' system.
 
IMO, this team shouldn't waste a single year of Doughty or Kopitar's prime years. One of the Kings' great advantages has been their quality of play and depth down the middle. If Richards is bought out, his cap hit is greatly reduced over the next 3 seasons and it gives Dean ample cap space to find a replacement that can play the kind of game that position demands in the Kings' system.

I agree however its a very weak UFA market this year anyway. Yes a replacement can be brought in via trade but with the weak UFA market I imagine a replacement will be pricey
 
I agree however its a very weak UFA market this year anyway. Yes a replacement can be brought in via trade but with the weak UFA market I imagine a replacement will be pricey

That's why Voynov being reinstated and re-signing Sekera would be very helpful.

If those two things happen, the Kings have the necessary asset(s) required to get a very good #3 center via a trade. We will have to wait and see. Hopefully Voynov's legal entanglements don't go beyond July 1.
 
That's why Voynov being reinstated and re-signing Sekera would be very helpful.

If those two things happen, the Kings have the necessary asset(s) required to get a very good #3 center via a trade. We will have to wait and see. Hopefully Voynov's legal entanglements don't go beyond July 1.

That's true.
Like the whole season this offseason's gameplan rest with Voynov
 
That was bizarre, Sutter did bump Richards up with some scorers late in the game.
It's the only way he won't look like a liability at this stage in his career. He's not physically capable of offering a safe, steady 4th-liner's game. He's a gambler who's lost a step, and he needs skill on his line to both capitalize on his passes AND limit his time spent in the defensive zone. Put a possession winger or finisher next to him, and the results will improve.

If he continues to be deployed in a grinder's role, he'll continue to cost the team.
 
That was bizarre, Sutter did bump Richards up with some scorers late in the game.

I'm pretty sure what happened was the team was getting hemmed in their own zone shift after shift. Finally, after a stoppage, Richards line went out there and spent their whole shift in the offensive zone cycling and maybe even generated a shot (I don't remember). I think it was a message to the team that if Richards of all people is the only guy who can get the puck down there, they were in rough shape. I think it was a bit of a reward to Richards for turning the tide for a few shifts and also a message to the team.
 
Richards looks fine against the Eastern teams but he is god awful versus the bigger Western teams. He needs to go east to save his career.
 
Richards looks fine against the Eastern teams but he is god awful versus the bigger Western teams. He needs to go east to save his career.

Was good on the east coast, only game he was really exposed imo was Chicago. But he was abused badly and repeatedly vs. Chicago.

At this point he's just keeping a roster spot from someone younger, faster, and more tenacious. If Richards has anything left in that chip on his shoulder, he'll reinvent himself this summer, but it may be too late for him to do that on this team. Sucks because it sounds like a lot of his teammates love him and were counting on him. Clifford-Nolan look much better with Shore than Richards, and as bad as Stoll has been, that line at least has purpose with him on it (being a pain in the ass).

But in spite of what I just said, I don't think he looked -5 bad in that stretch, but if you keep earning minuses, it doesn't matter how. Same goes for Brown, who I've been defending all year, and Kopitar to an extent, though he's more up and down.
 
While you are feeling all customer servicey...do you do windows?

Not sure it would be worth it to you...he might ***** about Richards the entire time he is there, so much so you might run out of your house screaming with your hands over your ears.
 
Not sure it would be worth it to you...he might ***** about Richards the entire time he is there, so much so you might run out of your house screaming with your hands over your ears.

Maybe he just need the outside of the glass done?
 
Brown is having the worst season of his career. It's just painful to watch.

On pace for - 11G/17A/28P/-14

Disgusting. And I don't care what anyone says regarding how he's "looked" that stat line is absolutely ****ing DISGUSTING. That contract is an albatross.
 
On pace for - 11G/17A/28P/-14

Disgusting. And I don't care what anyone says regarding how he's "looked" that stat line is absolutely ****ing DISGUSTING. That contract is an albatross.

As a guy that's defended him all year, I agree, especially because it's somehow worse lately.

I still haven't arrived at the ending you have, though. I still be he'll rebound. Not 60 point guy again, especially not on the 3rd line, but 40-50, and he'll be overpaid, but not Clarkson. Is that a problem on a team with cap issues? Probably, but we knew what this was coming in, no one can pretend they're surprised imo.
 
I defended both him and Voynov last year ad nauseam. It's just embarrassing that he's on pace for less goals than Dwight King (no offense Kinger, love ya man). It's so frustrating. I get over it quick though when I see Kopitar has 16 goals. The entire team outside of a few players has been abysmal. Absolutely abysmal. The contract was a guarantee though and he definitely earned it. Just embarrassing to see a forward getting paid that kind of money for 10 goals. Hopefully he rebounds hard next year though (or in the Playoffs if the Kings make it).
 
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