Ollie Weeks
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Not bothered by any of his words or actions since being sent down. In his shoes I don't think I'd go to the White House either.
Mike Richards III (Cleared waivers 1/27/15)
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Someone gets it!!!
Personally I would have run Pearson/Richards/Toffoli as a 4th line no pressure to see if they could get things going in a 0 pressure stetting... during that time when Pearson/Toffoli were playing with Lewis and doing nothing and Richards was with Clifford/Nolan.... There was absolutely nothing to lose from it....
Sending Richards to the minors was just a great move...
Lets see if we can **** with a guy that's signed forever at 6M.... The coaches job is to get the most out of his players.... after seeing Richards fill in in the top 6 early this year, when Kopitar was out, and play decent... it really looks like Sutter is failing at getting the most out of his roster.... I'm probably just grumpy about watching Gaborik playing with Stoll/Lewis last night... Kings had enough offense anyways... didn't need to put Gaborik with a player that can pass him the puck.
kingsfan
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Well said by the shiny new mod.
KINGS17
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Someone gets it!!!
Personally I would have run Pearson/Richards/Toffoli as a 4th line no pressure to see if they could get things going in a 0 pressure stetting... during that time when Pearson/Toffoli were playing with Lewis and doing nothing and Richards was with Clifford/Nolan.... There was absolutely nothing to lose from it....
Sending Richards to the minors was just a great move...
The coaches job is to get the most out of his players.... after seeing Richards fill in in the top 6 early this year, when Kopitar was out, and play decent... it really looks like Sutter is failing at getting the most out of his roster.... I'm probably just grumpy about watching Gaborik playing with Stoll/Lewis last night... Kings had enough offense anyways... didn't need to put Gaborik with a player that can pass him the puck.
Sutter tried this more than once over the last couple of seasons. Richards still couldn't produce any offense. Miraculously when Sutter put the kids with Carter, well we all know what happened.
Blaming Sutter for Richards' decline is the most ridiculous stuff posted around here in a long time. Sending Richards to the minors wasn't a great move. It was a move that just sucked less than watching him get owned night after night in the NHL.
KingsFan7824
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Both Sutter and Lombardi gave Richards all the chances they could. Sutter during the season last year, when he kept Richards and Carter together until whenever. Lombardi, when he didn't buy him out.
I doubt management has a issue with Richards as the 4th line center, if he's effective. Of course it would help if the rest of the team was effective as well. The problem is that neither one of those things has been happening consistently this year. Richards going to the AHL is a wake up call to both parties. Richards doesn't get to just ride the wave anymore, and if the team wants their boy back, they better start winning.
I can't hold anything Richards says against him at this point. It has to be weird for him. He's only human. His employer and boss put him on the 4th line and in the minors. His teammates and friends, if they're being honest, have to admit that there's a reason he is where he is right now. How is he supposed to face these guys without earning it back? When reality hits you in the face, it's not always fun. Who can't empathize with that?
I doubt management has a issue with Richards as the 4th line center, if he's effective. Of course it would help if the rest of the team was effective as well. The problem is that neither one of those things has been happening consistently this year. Richards going to the AHL is a wake up call to both parties. Richards doesn't get to just ride the wave anymore, and if the team wants their boy back, they better start winning.
I can't hold anything Richards says against him at this point. It has to be weird for him. He's only human. His employer and boss put him on the 4th line and in the minors. His teammates and friends, if they're being honest, have to admit that there's a reason he is where he is right now. How is he supposed to face these guys without earning it back? When reality hits you in the face, it's not always fun. Who can't empathize with that?
Herby
How could Blake have known?
Someone gets it!!!
Personally I would have run Pearson/Richards/Toffoli as a 4th line no pressure to see if they could get things going in a 0 pressure stetting... during that time when Pearson/Toffoli were playing with Lewis and doing nothing and Richards was with Clifford/Nolan.... There was absolutely nothing to lose from it....
Sending Richards to the minors was just a great move...
The coaches job is to get the most out of his players.... after seeing Richards fill in in the top 6 early this year, when Kopitar was out, and play decent... it really looks like Sutter is failing at getting the most out of his roster.... I'm probably just grumpy about watching Gaborik playing with Stoll/Lewis last night... Kings had enough offense anyways... didn't need to put Gaborik with a player that can pass him the puck.
Why on Earth would you put two of your most talented wingers who played a key role as 2nd liners on a SC winning team in a reduced role on the fourth line with an offensive black hole?
Sutter who has won 2 of the last 3 cups is failing to get the most out of his roster because Mike Richards career fell apart before our eyes?
Do you blame any of this on Richards or is it all someones else's fault?
Are you still excited and happy about having the Richards contract not bought out like you said a couple of weeks ago?
Reclamation Project
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My god, it's just the same stuff over and over now. Don't people get it? Dean didn't just wake up one morning and decide to send him down. This is over a year in the making.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
Reclamation Project
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Herby
How could Blake have known?
I understand, but I don't think it was a year in the making as you said. He has clearly been playing poorly for 13 months or so, but as much as DL wants to talk loyalty, he had to think MR was going to be able to come back and atleast be an adequate third liner or he would have bought him out.
I think the thought of waiving and demoting Richards probablty started at about the 15 game mark when it was obvious that he wasn't back to anywhere close to previous levels.
I bet this thread would still be on Mike Richards II if we got rid of the posts complaining about the existence of the thread.
Thrice
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I'm not complaining about the existence. I'm complaining about the current banality of the "discussion."
It was downhill after that concussion his first year and that second one in the playoffs the following year. Couple that with his lack of proper conditioning his career is toast.
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Face Wash
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Then you'll have to explain how he could have been tied for the team lead in points 32 games into last season (28 points), more than 6 months after the 2nd concussion.
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kingsfan
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yet when people have legitimate questions for you that contradiction your comments you completely ignore them. I expects Facewash's valid question will not be answered by you for example, or at least not answer it to his or anyone else's satisfaction.
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PJ Kings Hockey
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Buddy The Elf
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Good God, now you guys are whining about him not going to the Whitehouse? He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. If he went, somebody here would be whining about that too.
Mike Richards is not playing like an NHL player but some of you guys really like to put these guys under the microscope. I wonder if you guys hold yourselves to these high standards.
Mike Richards is not playing like an NHL player but some of you guys really like to put these guys under the microscope. I wonder if you guys hold yourselves to these high standards.
I can't speak to everyone's standards, but I called myself out this morning for peeing on the lid. It was unacceptable for my skill level.
Buddy The Elf
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Well at least one of us is being objective about their limitations! I personally would've tried to blame it on someone else.
the real question is, are you going to demote yourself to using a training potty?
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Sybil227
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The thing is, it's not. As long as he's affecting our cap, we have to deal with it. Removing him from the team doesn't stop his cap hit from seriously affecting the team.
Raccoon Jesus
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We buy Richards out and he goes and plays for another team. Mike Richards XVI is still alive and kicking in 2019.
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