Value of: Mike Matheson

[Adam da bomb]

Many offensive minded s-men have gotten a 1st back....Hronek Sandin OEL Skjei and that is just the last 5 years.

Sandin and Mattheson are not the same. One at the beginning of his career one almost 30.

 

[therocket9]

Sandin and Mattheson are not the same. One at the beginning of his career one almost 30.

Yes agreed Matheson is way more proven and will get way more in return.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Similar takes to the Monahan threads before he was traded last year.

Bottom line is that Matheson will be "worth" whatever Montreal trades him for... IF they trade him.

From the Habs pov, there's zero reason to trade him for anything less than a value premium. I doubt theyd view a late 1st & B prospect to be sufficient, he's more valuable to their roster next season than that return. KH has pretty consistently made trades that exceeded the expectations from hf boards trade threads, very little reason to doubt that trend continuing if they move Matheson

Monahan isn’t the example you think it is. Nor is Chiarot. They were both failures in the playoffs. Both were devoured by the speed of the games brought by other teams. This shell game Montreal fans have been doing will run out of space eventually. It’s not even clear anymore if MSL is the right man for the job.


What an intersection, no?

 

[HuGo Sham]

Monahan isn’t the example you think it is. Nor is Chiarot. They were both failures in the playoffs. Both were devoured by the speed of the games brought by other teams. This shell game Montreal fans have been doing will run out of space eventually. It’s not even clear anymore if MSL is the right man for the job.


What an intersection, no?

what's the intersection?
Habs are in year 3 of a rebuild,
trying to get out of Bergevin's shitty contracts.
Armia, Dvorak, Savard and maybe Evans are gone this summer.
Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky and Hutson have all been producing
relatively well when they're really the only guys getting keyed on.
Dach is still playing himself back from a serious knee injury and Laine
hasn't played all year.
The bottom six has overpriced vets and some young guys hoping to prove
themselves.
second youngest team and youngest D in the league and shitty goaltending.
Since it's hockeysfuture I will add that laval also has a young team and is 12-2
with kids like dobes, roy, mailloux, Tuch, engstrom, beck etc...all playing well
with Demodov, reinbacher and Hage on the way + several more high picks this summer,
habs will be ok.
They certainly won't fire St Louis, even if I and many habs fans have some issues with his coaching.
They will give him the benefit of the doubt until he fails with his team

 

[Pablo El Perro]

If a team wants a second pairing mover at the deadline, his value will go up. So, the Habs should hold onto him until then.

 

[Miller Time]

Monahan isn’t the example you think it is.

Says the poster that was dead wrong about Monahan

Nor is Chiarot. They were both failures in the playoffs.

I don't think hockey works the way you think it does.

Both were devoured by the speed of the games brought by other teams.

This shell game Montreal fans have been doing will run out of space eventually. It’s not even clear anymore if MSL is the right man for the job.

The obsession with Montreal in your posts is very cringe-worthy, beyond the terrible lack of quality in your takes.

Like your poor assessments last year, you're likely to be way off here as well... come trade deadline teams & GMs will do what they do, further adding to the very obvious precedent that should inform opinions more than mindless emotional rants... "should"... won't hold my breath.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Says the poster that was dead wrong about Monahan



I don't think hockey works the way you think it does.





The obsession with Montreal in your posts is very cringe-worthy, beyond the terrible lack of quality in your takes.

Like your poor assessments last year, you're likely to be way off here as well... come trade deadline teams & GMs will do what they do, further adding to the very obvious precedent that should inform opinions more than mindless emotional rants... "should"... won't hold my breath.

Sure. Trot continual failures out there as examples. That works.

 

[Miller Time]

Sure. Trot continual failures out there as examples. That works.

No, pretty sure no amount of failed takes about Habs players will change much about the poor assessments you share... is what it is.

 

[John Mandalorian]

No, pretty sure no amount of failed takes about Habs players will change much about the poor assessments you share... is what it is.

Failed takes? Are you seriously suggesting Florida considers Chiarot a success? Or Winnipeg with Monahan given how seriously he was devoured by the speed of the game in the playoffs? They’re huge failures. How do you not see that?

 

[Miller Time]

Failed takes? Are you seriously suggesting Florida considers Chiarot a success? Or Winnipeg with Monahan given how seriously he was devoured by the speed of the game in the playoffs? They’re huge failures. How do you not see that?

If you don't think the Jets valued the trade, speaks volumes about how heavy the bias of your takes are & how thick the blinders are.

And explains why your take about Matheson is so out to lunch.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Many offensive minded s-men have gotten a 1st back....Hronek Sandin OEL Skjei and that is just the last 5 years.

None of those guys are downright defensive liabilities like Matheson is.

 

[therocket9]

None of those guys are downright defensive liabilities like Matheson is.

False.

 

[Empoleon8771]

False.

No that is factually true.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1746200282017517799

 

[ole ole]

what's the intersection?
Habs are in year 3 of a rebuild,
trying to get out of Bergevin's shitty contracts.
Armia, Dvorak, Savard and maybe Evans are gone this summer.
Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky and Hutson have all been producing
relatively well when they're really the only guys getting keyed on.
Dach is still playing himself back from a serious knee injury and Laine
hasn't played all year.
The bottom six has overpriced vets and some young guys hoping to prove
themselves.
second youngest team and youngest D in the league and shitty goaltending.
Since it's hockeysfuture I will add that laval also has a young team and is 12-2
with kids like dobes, roy, mailloux, Tuch, engstrom, beck etc...all playing well
with Demodov, reinbacher and Hage on the way + several more high picks this summer,
habs will be ok.
They certainly won't fire St Louis, even if I and many habs fans have some issues with his coaching.
They will give him the benefit of the doubt until he fails with his team

Truer words were never spoken.

 

[Walksss]

I'm not about to read this thread, but let me guess, Matheson is not worth a first according to the mainboards. I'd be further willing to bet there's a group of the usual 4-5 posters in here with many posts arrogantly proclaiming he isn't worth it despite being wrong every. single. year. Its amazing.

No amount of embarrassment or humbling can ever get those guys to quit, it's like somehow this will be their first trade deadline again. If Matheson is made available he will inevitably be traded for a 1st round pick and the same blockheads will clutch their pearls and scream that another team made a mistake trading for a solid veteran.