Player Discussion Mike Matheson

[sampollock]

Just need to stop play him as a #1, he would good to great as a #3.

or trade him pls

 

[The Last Red]

who were all the posters that say that Habs have to keep him? eats up minutes?
never heard much during the wash round when he was screwing up

The problem is that he sucks for about half the minutes that he eats up.

 

[salbutera]

Matheson's value peaked last year when he put up 62 points (and frankly should have been traded). He's likely closer to Petry value now (when we traded him).

Montembeault I don't agree with. Play out his contract as a starter unless he loses the net to Dobeš in which case his cap hit isn't terrible for a backup.

That’s where I disagree, GMs will always look at the full body of work and like it or not a D in the eyes of a GM is all about an individual who can play all game situations vs pts specialist.

Matheson’s ability to carry the 25TOI+ workload, play vs tough opposition matchups & be employed on both PP & PK units, makes him much more valuable given his AAV is $4.875M - because cap hit trumps all in transactions unless it’s a super elite talent.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

That’s where I disagree, GMs will always look at the full body of work and like it or not a D in the eyes of a GM is all about an individual who can play all game situations vs pts specialist.

Matheson’s ability to carry the 25TOI+ workload, play vs tough opposition matchups & be employed on both PP & PK units, makes him much more valuable given his AAV is $4.875M - because cap hit trumps all in transactions unless it’s a super elite talent.

Except he doesn't do any of that well (except maybe PKing). He does not do well in the 5 on 5 minutes he plays, offensively or defensively.

 

[KikoHunter]

You trade him aa a veteran presence grab a pick or somethign and call it a day. Need to find a different style of mobile defensive dman, we have enough offense on the blue line

 

[Bobby Holik agent]

LOL he's ain't going nowhere
it just the beginning baby.

 

[Redux91]

I’m not trying to convince anyone, and I don’t think HuGo & MSL care what anyone else thinks IMO… Matheson is their type of guy so would not shock me if he’s reupped

Actually there's *no way* they 're-up' Matheson now, it's just not in the cards for him anymore
And it's chiefly because of Hutson's emergence/New Guhle contract kicking in.
Guhle and Slaf are getting *big* raises next year, from combined salary of 1.8M to now *13.1M*

Reinbacher coming in, couple of years will need a raise
If they sign a RD that's more money there as well
And Barron's 1.1M turned into Carriers 3.75M

And so,
In 1 year from now
Both Hutson and Matheson will need a new Contract for the same role
Somebody's getting that 7+M deal
And it AINT going to be Matheson.
I can *promise* you that

If I know this, They know this.
He's an offensive Dman who has lost his role on the team, what his role is now can be replaced by a MUCH better actual DEFENDER

The question is, do they trade him at the draft, the summer, next trade deadline, or the least likely scenario let him walk
The other question is trade him in a package for a C or a RD?

Honestly it can be fun problem to have as a GM
The only way to screw it up and make it NOT fun would be inexplicably re-sign him

Guhle can easily take over his PK duties and minutes (they'll be less anyway) and his current salary
And Hutson has ALREADY replaced him on PP1 for crying out loud

Guys, he is as good as gone lol trust me
It's mathematical certainty

 

[Tyson]

Evidently Mike Matheson met with Hughes and Gorton at the combine for 90 minutes this week. My guess is to discuss an extension.

 

[Saundies]

Evidently Mike Matheson met with Hughes and Gorton at the combine for 90 minutes this week. My guess is to discuss an extension.

They should have discussed him staying in the film room all summer to learn how to play defense.

 

[Miller Time]

Except he doesn't do any of that well (except maybe PKing). He does not do well in the 5 on 5 minutes he plays, offensively or defensively.

Wow... You must have a really strong positive opinion of our roster.

Pretty dam impressive for a team to make the playoffs when their most used player "does not do well at 5on5 minutes" yet played 200 more minutes at 5on5 than the next closest player.

 

[Adriatic]

They should have discussed him staying in the film room all summer to learn how to play defense.

You really know your hockey.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Offer him a cheap contract for 4-5 years or more money for 2 years. As long as there is no NMC included.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Evidently Mike Matheson met with Hughes and Gorton at the combine for 90 minutes this week. My guess is to discuss an extension.

Only two options exist, we extend him, or we move him in a sign and trade to a place that makes our special human very happy

6y X 6.5 M is my guess, with a fat no trade clause

Hughes is literally just here to launder money for Quartexx

 

[le_sean]

You really know your hockey.

Oh is holding on to the puck and trying to skate around 3 defenders when you’re the last man back good defensive hockey?

He’s not even good offensively anymore. Unless being blind out of the right eye and targeting opponent shinpads is good?

 

[Tyson]

Only two options exist, we extend him, or we move him in a sign and trade

6y X 6.5 M is my guess, with a fat no trade clause

Hughes is literally just here to launder money for Quartexx

Man I hope they don't invest 6 years on a soon to be 32 year old.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Man I hope they don't invest 6 years on a soon to be 32 year old.

I'll be glad it's not 8

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Only two options exist, we extend him, or we move him in a sign and trade to a place that makes our special human very happy

6y X 6.5 M is my guess, with a fat no trade clause

Hughes is literally just here to launder money for Quartexx

There will be no NMC. I don't believe HuGo has given out any.

 

[rien]

Only two options exist, we extend him, or we move him in a sign and trade to a place that makes our special human very happy

6y X 6.5 M is my guess, with a fat no trade clause

Hughes is literally just here to launder money for Quartexx

And you're just here to make sure that we know!

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

And you're just here to make sure that we know!

Yup I don't want any excuses in 5 years when people are complaining about Newhook being our 1C

 

[McGees]

 

[Saundies]

Oh is holding on to the puck and trying to skate around 3 defenders when you’re the last man back good defensive hockey?

He’s not even good offensively anymore. Unless being blind out of the right eye and targeting opponent shinpads is good?

But he plays 40 minutes a game!!!!! He's a veteran!!!!!

 

[Habnot]

What an echo chamber....and quite understandably, Habs fans always need a whipping boy.

But let's stick to the people that matter and have more information and more importantly decision making power. All of them from HuGo, MSL, teammates all want him back.

He's signing - done deal.

 

[Redux91]

Evidently Mike Matheson met with Hughes and Gorton at the combine for 90 minutes this week. My guess is to discuss an extension.

Or it could also easily be a "so listen big guy.. things are different now, where do would like to go if traded you by chance..?" kind of talk

At least it f***in better be lol I swear

 

[Skip Bayless]

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They thanked him for being part of the beginning of something great
They told him not to renew his La Ronde pass
They suggested a realtor and to start packing his shit
They told him they're looking at all the possibilities
They told him some hard decisions were coming up

 

[BaseballCoach]

I'll be glad it's not 8

I expect 4 years at $4.5M or 3 years at $5M