Player Discussion Mike Matheson

JianYang

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What is it exactly that the Penguins preferred Petry over him? They just wanted another member to their geriatric club? If it’s just handedness, that’s silly. You’re basically just trading for a worse, older, more expensive Matheson

I know matheson was always great skater, but I never used to see some of the things he does in a habs uniform..... The way he makes an extra move at the Blueline..... The spinoramas.... It's almost as Marty just gave him a green light for him to be him.

Its a kind of green light that perhaps he never got anywhere else, or maybe he was always worried about how that would affect his ice time in other places.
 

26Mats

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I know matheson was always great skater, but I never used to see some of the he does in habs uniform..... The way he makes an extra move at the Blueline..... The spinoramas.... It's almost as Marty just gave him a green light for him to be him.

Its a kind of green light that perhaps he never got anywhere else, or maybe he was always worried about how that would affect his ice time in other places.

Yes, I think he's trying new things, and sometimes making mistakes, but srillbtrying them.

The thing is, at some point he's going to have know when to do those things and when not to do them and make those mistakes. He can't turn the puck over the way he still does sometimes when it's time for us to contend.
 

JianYang

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Yes, I think he's trying new things, and sometimes making mistakes, but srillbtrying them.

The thing is, at some point he's going to have know when to do those things and when not to do them and make those mistakes. He can't turn the puck over the way he still does sometimes when it's time for us to contend.

I think the brisebois like brain cramps are inherent in his game. If he didn't have those, he'd be an all star in this league lol.

But hey, it's all about fun at the end of the day, and I like watching matheson play hockey.
 

26Mats

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I think the brisebois like brain cramps are inherent in his game. If he didn't have those, he'd be an all star in this league lol.

But hey, it's all about fun at the end of the day, and I like watching matheson play hockey.

I agree.

I just hope over the next few years of having the green light to experiment, he can somehow figure out when to pull off his outrageous moves and when to keep it simple - and one day be at the all start game.
 

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I did not have much of an opinion on Matheson when we traded for him but watching him play now i can say that he is the real deal. Massive steal vs Petry. Next couple of years should be good with emerging young talent around him.
He's growing on me rapidly.

I know matheson was always great skater, but I never used to see some of the things he does in a habs uniform..... The way he makes an extra move at the Blueline..... The spinoramas.... It's almost as Marty just gave him a green light for him to be him.

Its a kind of green light that perhaps he never got anywhere else, or maybe he was always worried about how that would affect his ice time in other places.
Confidence.
 

BaseballCoach

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Now I see why Letang was upset when he was traded.
Thank you Ron!
Matheson +7, pacing to 59 points and +15, cap hit $4.875M 3 more years to age 32 - 24.2 min per gm
K. Letang -10, pacing to 50 points and -16, cap hit of $6.100M 5 more years to age 41 - 24.7 min per gm
J. Petry +1, is pacing to 41 points and +2, with cap hit $6.250M 2 more years to age 37 - 22.2 min per gm

There are only 12 defencemen in the league who are on track to beat both of Matheson's 82 game numbers. And 5-on-5 only 9 guys.

We seem to have ourselves a first-pairing D for the first time since 2017.

Yes, I think he's trying new things, and sometimes making mistakes, but srill trying them.
True. The thing is, Matheson has active feet, an active stick, and a combative approach that enables him to correct over half of his mistakes. He exemplifies the MSL style.
 

ChesterNimitz

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Matheson +7, pacing to 59 points and +15, cap hit $4.875M 3 more years to age 32 - 24.2 min per gm
K. Letang -10, pacing to 50 points and -16, cap hit of $6.100M 5 more years to age 41 - 24.7 min per gm
J. Petry +1, is pacing to 41 points and +2, with cap hit $6.250M 2 more years to age 37 - 22.2 min per gm

There are only 12 defencemen in the league who are on track to beat both of Matheson's 82 game numbers. And 5-on-5 only 9 guys.

We seem to have ourselves a first-pairing D for the first time since 2017.


True. The thing is, Matheson has active feet, an active stick, and a combative approach that enables him to correct over half of his mistakes. He exemplifies the MSL style.
When you can skate anything is possible.
 

Rapala

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I don't think there is any doubt about it the Marty effect is written all over Matheson's play when he is going forward. With a better cast of supporting characters and a willingness to use them more who knows how many points he can put up. The concept of making the best play instinctively is easy for Mike because a high percenatge of the time that is simply going to mean skating the puck into open areas. Barron and Ghule will both get better at this as well when they become more seasoned. I think Mike has one more season of free wheeling before he needs to become a tad more selective but as someone pointed out he does recover well. Two times in the last two games Matheson looked beat by a player going around him and both times his mobility and a snake like stick check allowed him to strip the player of the puck. Now that is something we haven't seen too often around here in ages.
 

ChesterNimitz

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I agree.

I just hope over the next few years of having the green light to experiment, he can somehow figure out when to pull off his outrageous moves and when to keep it simple - and one day be at the all start game.
With Matheson now playing almost 28 minutes a game, it would appear that MSL also enjoys watching Matheson play.
 

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Yes, I think he's trying new things, and sometimes making mistakes, but srillbtrying them.

The thing is, at some point he's going to have know when to do those things and when not to do them and make those mistakes. He can't turn the puck over the way he still does sometimes when it's time for us to contend.
It’s a year for trying things. Worry about what works next year, and consistency the year after.
 
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I was annoyed at Petry for being completely unprofessional last year but that led to a trade for Matheson. Happy that we got a local guy who wants to be here, is a class act and is thriving even if the team is not competitive.
Petry's mind was not on the game for sure with his wife and kids crying to get him back in the USA because of the villainous Covid measures in that socialist run Canada....:sarcasm:
 

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Has Matheson played on the right side much during his career? Do people think he could be effective there? It would be interesting to go into next year with Guhle and Matheson on the top pair.

Assumng Ed is traded, nobody is added an no rookies graduate:

Guhle-------Matheson
Harris-------Barron
Xhekaj------Savard
Kovacevic
 

Sorinth

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Has Matheson played on the right side much during his career? Do people think he could be effective there? It would be interesting to go into next year with Guhle and Matheson on the top pair.

Assumng Ed is traded, nobody is added an no rookies graduate:

Guhle-------Matheson
Harris-------Barron
Xhekaj------Savard
Kovacevic
I'd much rather Guhle on the 2nd pairing where he would have a better chance of really dominating his ice time as opposed to going up against the best of the best and being ok.

If Edmundson is traded I would probably go
Matheson - Savard
Guhle - Barron
and then have Xhekaj, Harris, Kovacevic rotate on the 3rd pair (Likely someone somewhere is injured so they all play and we have Wideman as the 7th guy)
 

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Has Matheson played on the right side much during his career? Do people think he could be effective there? It would be interesting to go into next year with Guhle and Matheson on the top pair.

Assumng Ed is traded, nobody is added an no rookies graduate:

Guhle-------Matheson
Harris-------Barron
Xhekaj------Savard
Kovacevic
If Guhle is real good, maybe they do the Markov-Hamrlik or Weber-Petry thing and play the 2 best D on different pairs to have 48-50 minutes per night with one of them on the ice.

I will say that Florida played Matheson on the right side and he struggled in his own zone, whereas Pittsburgh moved him to the left side and he instantly did much better.
 
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Redux91

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I'd much rather Guhle on the 2nd pairing where he would have a better chance of really dominating his ice time as opposed to going up against the best of the best and being ok.

If Edmundson is traded I would probably go
Matheson - Savard
Guhle - Barron
and then have Xhekaj, Harris, Kovacevic rotate on the 3rd pair (Likely someone somewhere is injured so they all play and we have Wideman as the 7th guy)
It's pretty crazy we *dont* have to sign any FA D this summer lol.. christ even Wideman is under contract next year..

So trade Eddy and hope Xhekaj shoulder isn't busted up too much for next year
Matheson-Savard should hold us over 1 more year before we need the REAL #1RD
Guhle LD2 is the spot for him right now
 

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Injuries aside I have been happy with his play and production. He has done more than I thought he would that is for sure. Petry 2.0 it's looking like.
 

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