Value of: Mike Hoffman

[c_mak]

You literally wrote : below average teammate
He finished his contract with both St.Louis and Florida. Very disingenuous to say "they wanted him outta town after 70pts season" or "didn't last long in St.Louis".
Of course Kane is a better hockey player then Hoffman right now. The point was, even if he was a locker room problem, it's not an issue to a lot of teams. Proofs : Kane with Oilers, Hamonic with your very own Senators, heck, Hoffman to Floride, St.Louis and Montreal haha

Disingenuous, maybe I don't know. I definitely have negative slant on Hoffman. Locker room stuff aside, I think Hoffman is one dimensional player, which was partly the point as well. This was not just a locker room guy conversation My belief is he is a me first guy not a teamfirst guy. Some teams can absorb that some cannot. I would not want Mike Hoffman on my team period full stop.
Hamonic is a little different, there is medical stuff there and family concerns not really the same as Hoffman. Similar in he has a reputation for being a "different cat" but not really the same thing.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Funny how Hoffman looks like Drouin with the Habs. These soft turnover kings need great centers in order for them to put up points. Hoffman's value to me is low. Not impossible to move but the Habs won't get valuable futures and we will have to take a contract back.

Letting Danault walk and signing Hoffman, Savard, and Armia. Some of you who put the hate on Danault need to eat crow today. Suzuki/Danault was a great 1/2 punch. All Bergevin had to do was not sign Hoffman and just pay Danault. Then he didn't really have to trade for Dvorak after the KK offer sheet.

 

[logik47]

A 2nd+ Brendan Guhle?

 

[Habs Halifax]

A 2nd+ Brendan Guhle?

If anybody offers us something like that where we don't take a contract dump back, I think we accept it. Habs are looking for cap flexibility and moving Hoffman is one way to do it.

 

[FerrisRox]

Letting Danault walk and signing Hoffman, Savard, and Armia. Some of you who put the hate on Danault need to eat crow today. Suzuki/Danault was a great 1/2 punch. All Bergevin had to do was not sign Hoffman and just pay Danault.

This is a weird take, because in order for it to hold together, you have to pretend that Danault left because Armia, Hoffman and Savard were signed.

Danault left because of the term he was looking for and the expectation that Montreal would move forward with Suzuki and Kotkaniemi as their top six centres.

Hoffman was signed to replace the departing Tatar, Savard was signed to replace Weber and Armia was renewed.

The scenario you are presenting is, at best, a re-imagining of what actually happened.

 

[HuGo Sham]

If anybody offers us something like that where we don't take a contract dump back, I think we accept it. Habs are looking for cap flexibility and moving Hoffman is one way to do it.

in what universe do habs give away guhle to rid themselves of Hoffman? is that what i'm actually reading? seriously ?

 

[HuGo Sham]

A 2nd+ Brendan Guhle?

lolz. nope

 

[bsu]

ED

 

[Goal Caufield50]

This is a weird take, because in order for it to hold together, you have to pretend that Danault left because Armia, Hoffman and Savard were signed.

Danault left because of the term he was looking for and the expectation that Montreal would move forward with Suzuki and Kotkaniemi as their top six centres.

Hoffman was signed to replace the departing Tatar, Savard was signed to replace Weber and Armia was renewed.

The scenario you are presenting is, at best, a re-imagining of what actually happened.

I believe you have it proper characterized

 

[FerrisRox]

in what universe do habs give away guhle to rid themselves of Hoffman? is that what i'm actually reading? seriously ?

Brendan Guhle plays for the Anaheim Ducks. In the scenario being presented the Canadiens were acquiring him, not giving him away.

The Canadiens have Kaiden Guhle.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Hoffman without retention is without worth

 

[HuGo Sham]

Brendan Guhle plays for the Anaheim Ducks. In the scenario being presented the Canadiens were acquiring him, not giving him away.

The Canadiens have Kaiden Guhle.

Lol thx for clarifying

 

[Tetragrammaton]

He’s got 2 seasons left, he’ll be gone in 2024 at the trade deadline. We’re fine with him.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

lolz. nope

Just a third, I guess.

 

[Habs Halifax]

in what universe do habs give away guhle to rid themselves of Hoffman? is that what i'm actually reading? seriously ?

Brendan Guhle? Go back and reread

 

[Habs Halifax]

This is a weird take, because in order for it to hold together, you have to pretend that Danault left because Armia, Hoffman and Savard were signed.

Danault left because of the term he was looking for and the expectation that Montreal would move forward with Suzuki and Kotkaniemi as their top six centres.

Hoffman was signed to replace the departing Tatar, Savard was signed to replace Weber and Armia was renewed.

The scenario you are presenting is, at best, a re-imagining of what actually happened.

The weird take is thinking you had to sign Armia, Hoffman, and Savard before Danault.

Danault left cause we disrespected him and decided to pay Petry and Gallagher but not him. He did not leave because of Suzuki and KK. That makes no sense at all cause he joins the Kings with Kopitar, Byfield, Turcotte.

 

[OB5]

If I were the owner of the Ottawa Senators, I would trade you a 7th round pick so that I could demote him to the AHL, then the ECHL and then bench him. f*** that guy.

I'll take it

 

[1865]

If I were the owner of the Ottawa Senators, I would trade you a 7th round pick so that I could demote him to the AHL, then the ECHL and then bench him. f*** that guy.

Somebody's never had a mad wife.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Hoffman without retention is without worth

That's false. Most know his soft/skilled game and how he is a PP guy but his cap hit is nowhere near bad. 2 more years after this year at $4.5M does not require retention.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Somebody's never had a mad wife.

And a mad Hoffman.

 

[RC51]

Hoffman without retention is without worth

Wait a minute. this guy scores an average of what 25 per year over year. and according to YOU his proper contract should be 1/2 of 4.5 mil so 2.25 . ok big shot name more players that have 2.25 contracts and have a 25 goal average for the last 7 years. So your " no worth" statement is way way out of wack. Now if you had said, I would want players but at 1/2 price only. Well good luck signing ANY players for your team.

 

[Cancuks]

To the Sharks for Balcers + 3rd round?

 

[HuGo Sham]

Brendan Guhle? Go back and reread

got it

 

[pabst blue ribbon]

Hoffman over the last two seasons has 22 5v5 points in 104 games. This ranks Hoffman as 307th in 5v5 scoring amongst forwards over the past two seasons. Also it should be mentioned that Hoffman has scored 11 5v5 points over 52 games this season for the Habs is the same total he had with the Blues last season in 52 games as well. I don't think the "he plays on a bad team" is a particularly valid excuse.

I don't think that at this point any GM really wants a player who's only value at this point comes from being a good shooter on the PP at 4.5 million price tag for two seasons unless they are really desperate too boost their PP

 

[TheHelmet]

Not much, the league showed you their interest in him, and it is minimal