Mid Season 2015 NHL Draft Discussion - Candidates at halfway point

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sniper81

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He's picking it up for sure. Size and defensive game scare me, but he has one of the best offensive toolkits in this draft

Defensive play has come a long way, still needs work though. He must have beat Subban like 10 times 1-1 tonight. TK has learned how to manage and distribute the puck at a high level and he knows that will make or break him. I thought Brown was hard on him, TK is 10 times harder on himself. He's a special kid.
 

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Konecny never dropped out of the top 20, but he sure fell out of the top 10. we'll see if he can keep it up
 

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Defensive play has come a long way, still needs work though. He must have beat Subban like 10 times 1-1 tonight. TK has learned how to manage and distribute the puck at a high level and he knows that will make or break him. I thought Brown was hard on him, TK is 10 times harder on himself. He's a special kid.

Ya. If we draft and Svechnikov and Roy are gone, I would consider TK. Has the potential to be a monster point getter at the next level. I'm just drooling if we have Kadri, Nylander, TK, and Holland as our centres long term.
 

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Ya. If we draft and Svechnikov and Roy are gone, I would consider TK. Has the potential to be a monster point getter at the next level. I'm just drooling if we have Kadri, Nylander, TK, and Holland as our centres long term.

What about Gauthier?
 

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Ya. If we draft and Svechnikov and Roy are gone, I would consider TK. Has the potential to be a monster point getter at the next level. I'm just drooling if we have Kadri, Nylander, TK, and Holland as our centres long term.

I dont see nylander or konecny as nhl centres, especially konecny
 

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I dont see nylander or konecny as nhl centres, especially konecny

Why not? I don't really see size as an acceptable argument personally.

I think Nylander could absolutely be an NHL center.

Konecny I haven't seen enough to really say.
 

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Most likely a dumb question but how likely is it that Strome or McDavid(I know he's out now) play in Guelph on the 20th?
 

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Why not? I don't really see size as an acceptable argument personally.

I think Nylander could absolutely be an NHL center.

Konecny I haven't seen enough to really say.

Nylander is 50/50 i guess, but konecny's game i just think would work better as a winger. his skillset is better for the wing, not the middle of the ice. i've said it before, jeff skinner is his upside, who also played centre in junior and couldn't hack it as a C in the nhl. granted konecny does have a better motor than skinner, but the comparable is there. small offensive winger who i think will spend time injured and be a complimentary piece and not this gamebreaker he's made out to be
 

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Most likely a dumb question but how likely is it that Strome or McDavid(I know he's out now) play in Guelph on the 20th?

Good chance Strome will be playing unless hurt or suspended ( knock on wood). Mcdavid will be with Team Canada.
 

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Nylander is 50/50 i guess, but konecny's game i just think would work better as a winger. his skillset is better for the wing, not the middle of the ice. i've said it before, jeff skinner is his upside, who also played centre in junior and couldn't hack it as a C in the nhl. granted konecny does have a better motor than skinner, but the comparable is there. small offensive winger who i think will spend time injured and be a complimentary piece and not this gamebreaker he's made out to be
You seem to dislike a lot of Ontario born players, why is that?
 

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He really likes to hype up that Russian Provorov, maybe he's the anti-Don Cherry? :sarcasm:

Not even that, Cherry is the biggest media joke in the world, expired about 15 years ago. This is a strong year for Ontario skaters as an age group, he just doesn't seem to like any of them.
 

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Not even that, Cherry is the biggest media joke in the world, expired about 15 years ago. This is a strong year for Ontario skaters as an age group, he just doesn't seem to like any of them.


I agree it's a pretty good year for Ontario kids, but the only guy I can remember Vor saying anything negative about is Konecny, it's not like he has claimed McDavid isn't the real deal, or that Strome is a bust waiting to happen, etc. It's one guy who he doesn't view as an impact player at the NHL level, everyone is entitled to their own personal opinion.
 

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I'm starting to wonder if this draft is being over rated like every other year. Just looking at stats, but in a year when there is apparently stars available through the 20's, we see utility players like Crouse rated occasionally in the top 10. Guys like Kocnecy and Barzal with underwhelming stats. If I'm not reading the hype or any mock drafts, I'd be seeing these guys, especially being smaller, as late 1sts or early 2nds.

There's no denying the star power in the top of the draft, and their elite level of potential, but I don't see a lot of star level play in too many more.

I know I can only go on stats, but when looking at a 5'10"-11" light weight center in the top 10-15 of a 'special' draft, I'd expect to see the stats Marner has, not Kocnecy.

Gauthier gets dogged around here for his lack of offensive progression despite having very obvious NHL assets like smarts, size and skating. Despite being a very rare shut down center. Now we have a draft with some guys being utility type players in top 6 roles that are scoring at a lower pace then FG and don't play his defensive game and don't have his size.

I know it's expected that these kids at their 2nd year post draft they will be scoring at over PPG, unlike FG, but I'm just not too excited to take a PF or small center that's scoring under PPG in the top 15 of a great draft. I'll take Roy, Marner, Zacha, maybe even Merkely over these guys.

I guess I'm just reading mock drafts and comparing them to the hype around here and I just don't get it. I'm not seeing any reason to believe that outside of the top 5-7, there is any real stars in this draft. It's no more exciting then the past few drafts. If we end up taking a kid between 10-20, I won't be expecting a top line player. Could even be a bust or expected bottom 6 like Biggs or Gauthier.
 

sniper81

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I agree it's a pretty good year for Ontario kids, but the only guy I can remember Vor saying anything negative about is Konecny, it's not like he has claimed McDavid isn't the real deal, or that Strome is a bust waiting to happen, etc. It's one guy who he doesn't view as an impact player at the NHL level, everyone is entitled to their own personal opinion.

Solid.
 

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Good chance Strome will be playing unless hurt or suspended ( knock on wood). Mcdavid will be with Team Canada.

That was my worry. Didn't think of the Team Canada angle when buying the tickets, 13 of them. :laugh:

Strome won't make Team Canada?
 

sniper81

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That was my worry. Didn't think of the Team Canada angle when buying the tickets, 13 of them. :laugh:

Strome won't make Team Canada?

No he wasn't invited, he's way to raw and there's to much talent available. Same thing has happened to plenty of friends of mine this year, I feel terrible for you!
 
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