did you just learn that taking anything to the extreme makes it sound stupid?
person A: "I think we should go left."
Person B: " extending this logic we would be going in circles"
Michkov vs Demidov
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person A: "I think we should go left."
Person B: " extending this logic we would be going in circles"
A lot of posters here seems to have only been stat watching or highlight watching.
When you say Mitchkov is far and away the best prospect and can only justify that by basic stats, it's hard to take you seriously. I found the posters with the strongest opinions seems to be the least knowledgeable.
If we're going by stats (points) alone, Catton would've been the 2nd forward picked in the last draft.
There's a lot more to points when it comes to projecting players 3-5 years down the road.
In my opinion, it's very close between the 2 players in terms of talent and comes down to preference in play style, team fit and character/interview/off ice.
When you say Mitchkov is far and away the best prospect and can only justify that by basic stats, it's hard to take you seriously. I found the posters with the strongest opinions seems to be the least knowledgeable.
If we're going by stats (points) alone, Catton would've been the 2nd forward picked in the last draft.
There's a lot more to points when it comes to projecting players 3-5 years down the road.
In my opinion, it's very close between the 2 players in terms of talent and comes down to preference in play style, team fit and character/interview/off ice.
Bouboumaster
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Ugh. So I have to come back when I’m 80 to read if your crystal ball was clear and right or foggy and wrong? Ok, it’s a date
David Suzuki
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did you just learn that taking anything to the extreme makes it sound stupid?
person A: "I think we should go left."
Person B: " extending this logic we would be going in circles"
It isn't taking something to the extreme at all. It's the inevitable conclusion of your logic.
Person states the Habs have interesting prospects, you say none of them have played in the NHL yet so it's not worth talking about in any meaningful way. That's true for almost every player in this section with an active thread. May as well shut it down.
No, you just didn't read the whole thread like usual and post without context.
Calling a GM a genius before the players they drafted even play a game is pretty foolish.
Redpath
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A better comparison would be if Catton, the top scorer among his prospect competition group in the WHL, also had extraordinary success in professional European leagues against men. Imagine if Catton had pulled an Auston Matthews, played in Europe for his draft year, and had a stellar performance. His draft stock would have rightly exploded on his production alone.
Obviously there is more to evaluation than just stats (Which is why we see Michkov's IQ get routinely touted), but in a comparison between two offensive players, the better production is not to be scoffed at, especially when Michkov has proven it across professional levels (That no one at his age has outperformed in a generation) while Demidov has not. Being decisively more proven as a scorer seems a bit more important than minutiae of their two-way game or "character issues" when comparing offensive phenoms.
Against the team that Michkov couldn’t crack in his D+1
Want My Dach x 77
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Demidov > Michkov
His work ethic, attitude, SIZE, skill will make him the better Pro hockey player.
Michkov is pretty undersized and has the signs potentially to be a head case I think it will be a lot harder for his game to translate to the NHL.
If Michkov was in the 2024 draft Demidov would get picked before him.
His work ethic, attitude, SIZE, skill will make him the better Pro hockey player.
Michkov is pretty undersized and has the signs potentially to be a head case I think it will be a lot harder for his game to translate to the NHL.
If Michkov was in the 2024 draft Demidov would get picked before him.
Redpath
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That is the same team that Michkov played on in his D-1, right? (Where he had the best performance for his age group ever)
Demidov's preseason accomplishments are just another blurb on Michkov's resume. I guess it's the best thing he has going for him to date.
Yes, 3 games. Then 1 game last year before being loaned out because he couldn’t crack the team :/
Redpath
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Uh, no. 13 games. Where he played more games and scored more points for SKA as a D-1 than Demidov has in his entire KHL "career" to date.
HeadLiceHatty
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Michkov >> Demidov, a couple preseason games and a homer fan posting nonsense doesn’t change that, stay coping.
LOL. No wonder Flyers fans are sick of this. Michkov is on a whole other level.
It’s ok. The Demidov - Michkov debate will probably end like the Caufield - York debate.Uh, no. 13 games. Where he played more games and scored more points for SKA as a D-1 than Demidov has in his entire KHL "career" to date.
I guess we will see soon enough. I like Demidov better. « Homer fan » - Said the guy with the Michkov avatar
No dog in this fight but that is some seriously bad defense on all three plays.
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Pablo Sanchez
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Couldn’t crack the team but finished with a better ppg than anyone on the team :/
The Gr8 Dane
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I watched the whole game , demidov was great every shift but he looked like the only one trying out there lmao. Very low effort game all around
TheKrebsCycle
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The majority of neutral ( non Hab fans ) recognize this . Michkov already has 2 successful ( especially given his age ) KHL seasons under his belt while Demidov has only played against kids . Glad that preseason games are so meaningful / telling for some . Is he good enough for the K this year after not cutting it in his draft season ? Guess we’ll see when the games count .
We're sitting in here, and I'm supposed to be a neutral poster. and we in here talking about Preseason. I mean, listen, we're talking about Preseason, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about Preseason.
The Gr8 Dane
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SKA will reach record numbers on streams of their games this year , seriously , hockey is a religion here lol
What else do you want to talk about? The season hasn’t started anywhere in Europe or NA.
I swear some posters sometimes…
That’s more sad than anything showing you guys are starving for even a hopeful difference maker.
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