Michaels Versus Hart

[Sheppy]

Aren't these the goats?

Bret & Owen Hart
Roddy Piper
Chris Jericho
Edge & Christian
Trish Stratus - what's her status, single or married?
Kevin Owens
Natalya
Bobby Roode

I'd put Jericho above Piper, but yeah.

 

[BruinDust]

Aren't these the goats?

Bret & Owen Hart
Roddy Piper
Chris Jericho
Edge & Christian
Trish Stratus - what's her status, single or married?
Kevin Owens
Natalya
Bobby Roode

Bulldog Bob Brown

 

[JackSlater]

Bulldog Bob Brown

Kurrgan.

 

[Unholy Diver]

Kurrgan.

Canada's greatest athlete Iron Mike Sharpe

 

[boredmale]

I would go with Hart. When on his game you could argue Michaels was better but biggest problem for me is Michaels from time to time didn't seem to put on a good performance when he didn't feel like it. Hart on the other hand would always give 100% effort. That to me is the difference

 

[Unholy Diver]

I never liked either of them, but if I had to pick I suppose I would go with Hart, though he was bland, and on his best nights Michaels was probably a hair better, you could always count on Hart to show up and put in a good effort and not disappear for months or get into bar fights with servicemen

 

[Kaner9]

I never liked either of them, but if I had to pick I suppose I would go with Hart, though he was bland, and on his best nights Michaels was probably a hair better, you could always count on Hart to show up and put in a good effort and not disappear for months or get into bar fights with servicemen

You don't like either... who the f*** do you like?!

 

[Unholy Diver]

You don't like either... who the f*** do you like?!

I was more of a WCW guy during Hart and HBK's high points, I prefer guys like Flair, Hennig, Rude, and Savage.

 

[CHGoalie27]

Bret Hart is the best I ever saw when I comes to in ring skill.

Macho Man may have been the best total package as far as in ring ability and marketability.

 

[The Shadow]

Bret Hart is the best I ever saw when I comes to in ring skill.

Macho Man may have been the best total package as far as in ring ability and marketability.

agreed. Macho was way ahead of his time and had it all

 

[Sheppy]

Angle was better than both ^

 

[93gilmour93]

As good as Bret was HBK was better as the all around performer. Going with Shawn....

 

[ManofSteel55]

I would go with Hart. When on his game you could argue Michaels was better but biggest problem for me is Michaels from time to time didn't seem to put on a good performance when he didn't feel like it. Hart on the other hand would always give 100% effort. That to me is the difference

Michaels had major consistency issues that people tend to overlook. Bret had great matches with everyone.

 

[Nemesis Prime]

Michaels lucked out in the friends department. That's all he had on Bret.

 

[CHGoalie27]

Michaels lucked out in the friends department. That's all he had on Bret.

Disagree. He was the most acrobatic and durable of the heavyweight class. His ability to work with the biggest and heaviest in such a convincing fashion, his sales and ability to create chemistry with literally anyone is every bit as good, if not an asshair better than Bret (I'm goin as good lol)

 

[JackSlater]

Disagree. He was the most acrobatic and durable of the heavyweight class. His ability to work with the biggest and heaviest in such a convincing fashion, his sales and ability to create chemistry with literally anyone is every bit as good, if not an asshair better than Bret (I'm goin as good lol)

Disgrace.

 

[OmniSens]

Bret Hart fan who voted for HBK.. and I really hate him. Lol

 

[ManofSteel55]

Disagree. He was the most acrobatic and durable of the heavyweight class. His ability to work with the biggest and heaviest in such a convincing fashion, his sales and ability to create chemistry with literally anyone is every bit as good, if not an asshair better than Bret (I'm goin as good lol)

I disagree about durable. He had his share of injuries, and even gave up the belt to go home for awhile. Bret had great matches with everyone that HBK had a great match with. You can't say the opposite.
People remember Shawn as better because he worked a flashier, more exciting style. Bret was better at telling stories though.
The biggest difference though was in drawing ability. Bret drew slightly better in the US, and way better internationally.

 

[alko]

Disgrace.

Whats this?

 

[kingsholygrail]

Whats this?

The "Montreal Screwjob" is what it's become known as. Basically Vince wanted Brett to give up the title to Shawn. Brett didn't want to. Vince made it happen anyway. That's the way condensed version. There's no real innocent party involved, not even Brett who wasn't willing to play ball. Vince is, ultimately, the bad guy if you really want to point a finger.

 

[JackSlater]

Whats this?

That's from an episode of Raw in early 1997. It's also definitive proof that Bret was willing to drop the title to Michaels.

 

[Megahab]

For just in-ring work - I'm going with Bret Hart. Michaels' resume is helped a lot by his 2002-2010 work where his opponents were a lot better than what Bret got. I can only imagine what kind of matches Bret Hart could have had in the 2000's with Angle, Benoit, Jericho, Triple H, Cena, etc. Although I put both Benoit and Angle above both of them.

I think most people will say HBK had better mic work, but I think it's a lot closer than you think. Both were awesome on the mic as heels, but I'd put Bret's face promos ahead of HBK's face promos.

 

[Kaner9]

Bret Hart did a good promo if you pay attention and know his history. When he was making fire heel promos it still made sense from where he was in the years before.

 

[Megahab]

That's from an episode of Raw in early 1997. It's also definitive proof that Bret was willing to drop the title to Michaels.

Are you sure that's from Raw? I don't remember a Bret Hart-HBK match on a 1997 Raw. And how is that proof of Bret willing to drop the title to HBK? Not that I don't think he would have (I'm in the Vince screwed Bret camp), I just don't know if that clip shows anything.

I'm probably wrong but before reading your post, I would have thought that clip is from a house show.

 

[JackSlater]

Are you sure that's from Raw? I don't remember a Bret Hart-HBK match on a 1997 Raw. And how is that proof of Bret willing to drop the title to HBK? Not that I don't think he would have (I'm in the Vince screwed Bret camp), I just don't know if that clip shows anything.

I'm probably wrong but before reading your post, I would have thought that clip is from a house show.

It's from the February 3 Raw in 1997.



As far as Bret dropping the title, you may be thinking too much when reading my post.