Message from Chipman

[Eyeseeing]

Chipman is a smart man and I believe a kind person with a huge heart.
I believe he wants a winner.
I believe he loves Winnipeg and all his players and staff.
He may or may not meddle in day to day issues, I don’t know that.
What we do know is the team has been dysfunctional for quite some time and Chipman had to be fully aware along with Cheveldayoff.
Chipman speaks of not moving too quickly however this organization is far too reactive and seldom proactive.
Chipman has spent to the cap but the assets are not being managed properly.
When issues aren’t addressed quickly molehills become mountains.
This club has a huge risk adverse position on making adjustments on the fly or adjustments period.
I really hope that this off season they get the right staff and make adjustments on the roster as the season plays out.
Ultimately the buck stops with Chipman and I hope his kindness doesn’t hurt him or the club.
I still think the majority of this roster can play inspired hockey.
GJG

 

[Jets 31]

Chipman is spending to the cap so he obviously wants a winner but Chevy has been here 11 years and he and Chipman are probably pretty close, harder to fire him probably. I would have just left Chevy's contract as is, one more year, and seen how next season goes before giving Chevy a new 3 year deal but that's me . All i know is Chevy has alot of work to do this summer.

 

[TS Quint]

I have certainly not lost my mind just tired of how this team opetates. I have had season tickets from the start and dreaded going to games this year because most nights the effort was not there and the arena was had no energy. The players were honest about what was going on but then Chevy tried to sugar coat things in his 30 minute ted talk and Chipman's note was not any better. It is great to have an NHL team again and have a distraction during the long winter but I feel Chevy and Chipman play the fans for fools. It is 'their' team and without Chipman their is no Jeys 2.0 but it does not mean I cannot be critical of their behaviour. You choose not to be, which is fine too.

Nothing wrong with being critical. But you are criticizing something you made up. Keep it in reality. The coaches IN FACT did not get fired. To be upset over nothing is losing your mind over all the true things you listed. Colour inside the lines, there is plenty to complain about that is real and happening. You are making things up to be upset about.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I don't mind that metric (top 8) for the most part, but I think it does have its flaws. This year, in the East at least, we're going to lose two teams that I would feel are legitimate Cup possibilities (Tampa/Toronto, Rangers/Pittsburgh) in the first round. If Tampa doesn't win the series, I'd still say they were at the contender level. Just saying there are exceptions to that rule and the 2 vs 3 format we have in the playoffs now is going to make those exceptions happen a lot more.

Oh definitely agree it is flawed. But what do we have that is better?

I use my own judgement, but I can't codify that.

This year:
Florida, Carolina, Tampa, Colorado, Calgary, not necessarily in that order are the ones I would consider contenders.
I think the list of near contenders is longer than usual this year. It includes Toronto, NYR, StL, Pitt and a few others. And there is always the possibility that the eventual winner is not on either the first or second tier of contenders. The NHL play off of 4 seven game series is quite a grind. I think there is a lot of variance involved in determining the final winner.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Nothing wrong with being critical. But you are criticizing something you made up. Keep it in reality. The coaches IN FACT did not get fired. To be upset over nothing is losing your mind over all the true things you listed. Colour inside the lines, there is plenty to complain about that is real and happening. You are making things up to be upset about.

You are trying to make a technicality into something meaningful. Fired vs not renewed is the same result. Both = fired.

Being allowed to interview to get their jobs back is a relatively new HR ploy. In this case it is a lame attempt to soften the blow. In fact, it is insulting to the former employees.

The coaches have been fired. The rest is BS.

I wonder if Maurice is going to be invited to interview for the HC vacancy?

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

I wonder if Maurice is going to be invited to interview for the HC vacancy?

Maybe he will be hired as a consultant for the selection panel. Make some candidates cry in that room.

 

[Ducky10]

You are trying to make a technicality into something meaningful. Fired vs not renewed is the same result. Both = fired.

Being allowed to interview to get their jobs back is a relatively new HR ploy. In this case it is a lame attempt to soften the blow. In fact, it is insulting to the former employees.

The coaches have been fired. The rest is BS.

I wonder if Maurice is going to be invited to interview for the HC vacancy?

Yep, the effort to turn this into some meaningless technicality is just missing the point. It’s easier to dismiss others and label them as hysterical than try to understand the pov.

 

[ps241]

I have certainly not lost my mind just tired of how this team opetates. I have had season tickets from the start and dreaded going to games this year because most nights the effort was not there and the arena was had no energy. The players were honest about what was going on but then Chevy tried to sugar coat things in his 30 minute ted talk and Chipman's note was not any better. It is great to have an NHL team again and have a distraction during the long winter but I feel Chevy and Chipman play the fans for fools. It is 'their' team and without Chipman their is no Jeys 2.0 but it does not mean I cannot be critical of their behaviour. You choose not to be, which is fine too.

I think most fans were really disappointed with how this season went off the rails. Scheifele’s end of season job interview for 21 other NHL GM’s was a lagging indicator of what my eyes were witnessing most games. The season was off and the room was clearly divided. Young emerging frustrated leaders calling out Scheifele by code for not buying in. A coach stepping down on game day was a bizarre event. The captain watching his side kick and coach both quit on him during the season would have been very tough.

When it comes to Chevy and Chipman I look at it a bit differently. For me it will be about their actions and not their words. What happened this season was 100% on Chevy and Mark too if he was in any way slowing Chevy down from making changes. This turned out to all be fruit of the poison tree for sticking with Paul Maurice too long. Many GM’s would have been shown the door for what happened but Mark has decided to stay with Kevin so if ”they” fail this all falls on Mark and he is 100% to blame. If they come roaring back next season then Mark was right. Heavy is the head that wears the crown. Unlike Maurice who maybe talked too much at times, when it comes to Chevy and Chipman they handle the media and fans in a more lawyerly understated fashion and I usually don’t listen because they don’t say much by design. I am however watching and judging their actions especially after this embarrassment at the end of the season.

I use to chuckle at some of the high profile whacky owners in Ottawa, Edmonton, and Vancouver who appeared to be negatively impacting their teams with their involvement. I use to think we had a pretty sharp owner who was doing a good job on balance (nobody is perfect). Over the past few seasons I have begun to wonder what side of that line Chipman is on. Its a results based business so time will tell.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

I think most fans were really disappointed with how this season went off the rails. Scheifele’s end of season job interview for 21 other NHL GM’s was a lagging indicator of what my eyes were witnessing most games. The season was off and the room was clearly divided. Young emerging frustrated leaders calling out Scheifele by code for not buying in. A coach stepping down on game day was a bizarre event. The captain watching his side kick and coach both quit on him during the season would have been very tough.

When it comes to Chevy and Chipman I look at it a bit differently. For me it will be about their actions and not their words. What happened this season was 100% on Chevy and Mark too if he was in any way slowing Chevy down from making changes. This turned out to all be fruit of the poison tree for sticking with Paul Maurice too long. Many GM’s would have been shown the door for what happened but Mark has decided to stay with Kevin so if ”they” fail this all falls on Mark and he is 100% to blame. If they come roaring back next season then Mark was right. Heavy is the head that wears the crown. Unlike Maurice who maybe talked too much at times, when it comes to Chevy and Chipman they handle the media and fans in a more lawyerly understated fashion and I usually don’t listen because they don’t say much by design. I am however watching and judging their actions especially after this embarrassment at the end of the season.

I use to chuckle at some of the high profile whacky owners in Ottawa, Edmonton, and Vancouver who appeared to be negatively impacting their teams with their involvement. I use to think we had a pretty sharp owner who was doing a good job on balance (nobody is perfect). Over the past few seasons I have begun to wonder what side of that line Chipman is on. Its a results based business so time will tell.

Very well said especially questioning Chipmans sincerity and acumen to compete with the big boys in the NHL. His loyalty may be his downfall as they are as far from contenders as they have ever been since relocating.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

Nothing wrong with being critical. But you are criticizing something you made up. Keep it in reality. The coaches IN FACT did not get fired. To be upset over nothing is losing your mind over all the true things you listed. Colour inside the lines, there is plenty to complain about that is real and happening. You are making things up to be upset about.

I really do not get your logic. They were fired. Plain and simple. I am not making anything up.
I will take a poll and let the others on here decide lol
At least we agree that there is plenty to criticize

 

[blues10]

I really do not get your logic. They were fired. Plain and simple. I am not making anything up.
I will take a poll and let the others on here decide lol
At least we agree that there is plenty to criticize

I have not seen any reports that any of the coaches on the staff were fired. All reports indicate that their contracts had expired. It’s doesn’t sound like the assistants will be encouraged to re-apply for their positions but Lowry has been invited to re-apply for the HC position. Reports indicate that he will not apply. My interpretation of firing would be getting let go while still under contract and the Jets being responsible to pay out the remainder of the contract. I have not seen any reports where the Jets will be responsible for paying any salary of the coaches whose contracts expired. How can someone be fired from an organization when they are no longer on the payroll?

 

[jetsv2]

I have not seen any reports that any of the coaches on the staff were fired. All reports indicate that their contracts had expired. It’s doesn’t sound like the assistants will be encouraged to re-apply for their positions but Lowry has been invited to re-apply for the HC position. Reports indicate that he will not apply. My interpretation of firing would be getting let go while still under contract and the Jets being responsible to pay out the remainder of the contract. I have not seen any reports where the Jets will be responsible for paying any salary of the coaches whose contracts expired. How can someone be fired from an organization when they are no longer on the payroll?

Your arguing semantics, they were told their contracts would not be renewed. That means the team is no longer interested in employing them which is basically the same as being fired.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

I have not seen any reports that any of the coaches on the staff were fired. All reports indicate that their contracts had expired. It’s doesn’t sound like the assistants will be encouraged to re-apply for their positions but Lowry has been invited to re-apply for the HC position. Reports indicate that he will not apply. My interpretation of firing would be getting let go while still under contract and the Jets being responsible to pay out the remainder of the contract. I have not seen any reports where the Jets will be responsible for paying any salary of the coaches whose contracts expired. How can someone be fired from an organization when they are no longer on the payroll?

Are you Chevy or Chipman trying to use Truenorth speak to avoid the truth? Why are they afraid to use the word 'fired'. Did Trump threaten to sue them if they do. It is more insulting to tell them 'you can interview for your old job' than actually say you are fired.

 

[ps241]

I have not seen any reports that any of the coaches on the staff were fired. All reports indicate that their contracts had expired. It’s doesn’t sound like the assistants will be encouraged to re-apply for their positions but Lowry has been invited to re-apply for the HC position. Reports indicate that he will not apply. My interpretation of firing would be getting let go while still under contract and the Jets being responsible to pay out the remainder of the contract. I have not seen any reports where the Jets will be responsible for paying any salary of the coaches whose contracts expired. How can someone be fired from an organization when they are no longer on the payroll?

Am I the only one who finds it a bit odd that they invited Dave to reapply. What does that even mean?

Dave walks in to TNSE boardroom with resume and introduces himself. “Hello Mark, Hello Chevy”

Chipper and Chevy: Hello Dave it says here that you use to work as the Head Coach of the Winnipeg Jets. Tell us about that experience.

Dave: (sits in stunned silence).

So Maurice quit and now Dave is saying no thanks to this bizarre back handed attempt at what exactly by TNSE?

 

[Eyeseeing]

Am I the only one who finds it a bit odd that they invited Dave to reapply. What does that even mean?

Dave walks in to TNSE boardroom with resume and introduces himself. “Hello Mark, Hello Chevy”

Chipper and Chevy: Hello Dave it says here that you use to work as the Head Coach of the Winnipeg Jets. Tell us about that experience.

Dave: (sits in stunned silence).

So Maurice quit and now Dave is saying no thanks to this bizarre back handed attempt at what exactly by TNSE?

The ability to reapply not surprising given that Adam is here.
Plus Lowry was a newer coaching member and perhaps they really would consider hiring him if he had a suggested staff in place joining him.
He really did get put in a lousy position to succeed.
Can you say….. AWKWARD

 

[ps241]

The ability to reapply not surprising given that Adam is here.
Plus Lowry was a newer coaching member and perhaps they really would consider hiring him if he had a suggested staff in place joining him.
He really did get put in a lousy position to succeed.
Can you say….. AWKWARD

Yea he did get put in a sub optimal situation.

Can you imagine if they did a large coaching search and then announced that they have decided on Lowry (had he applied)? How weird scenes inside the gold mine would that have been. I have to admit that would be vintage Chipper though. I could see it now they would have both Mark and Chevy sitting side by side as Mark announced Lowry being hired and Chevy sitting their in stunned silence like Scheifele was beside Wheeler in the 2019 post Blues loss exit interview.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Am I the only one who finds it a bit odd that they invited Dave to reapply. What does that even mean?

Dave walks in to TNSE boardroom with resume and introduces himself. “Hello Mark, Hello Chevy”

Chipper and Chevy: Hello Dave it says here that you use to work as the Head Coach of the Winnipeg Jets. Tell us about that experience.

Dave: (sits in stunned silence).

So Maurice quit and now Dave is saying no thanks to this bizarre back handed attempt at what exactly by TNSE?

I don't think "invited" to reapply is the right term. More like "free" to reapply.

Regardless, their contracts run until the end of the League Year which is July 12th this year. I imagine they're not involved in any team meetings and their desks are empty. So if it quacks like a duck....

 

[Ducky10]

Am I the only one who finds it a bit odd that they invited Dave to reapply. What does that even mean?

Dave walks in to TNSE boardroom with resume and introduces himself. “Hello Mark, Hello Chevy”

Chipper and Chevy: Hello Dave it says here that you use to work as the Head Coach of the Winnipeg Jets. Tell us about that experience.

Dave: (sits in stunned silence).

So Maurice quit and now Dave is saying no thanks to this bizarre back handed attempt at what exactly by TNSE?

You are most certainly not the only one. I’ve taken more shots than Helle vs the Avs over suggesting the same thing.

I think it’s some bizarre way for them to protect this “1st class organization “ image they so desperately want to maintain.

 

[Eyeseeing]

You are most certainly not the only one. I’ve taken more shots than Helle vs the Avs over suggesting the same thing.

I think it’s some bizarre way for them to protect this “1st class organization “ image they so desperately want to maintain.

This organization hung on to the coaches way too long believing this would somehow turn around when in fact it was abundantly clear that wasn’t happening.
Maurice was given a lot of rope and when the time of reckoning came Maurice actually quit on the team even though the organization essentially never quit on him at least publicly.
This doesn’t look great for either side and is a great example of not dealing with issues when they appear.
If I’m Lowry I would not apply.
This is where Chipman falls under “ nice guys finish last”
I know they talk about not making knee jerk decisions but this whole situation could have been avoided 3 years ago.
Maurice actually made the decision for them by taking it out of their hands not a great look.

 

[ps241]

I have not seen any reports that any of the coaches on the staff were fired. All reports indicate that their contracts had expired. It’s doesn’t sound like the assistants will be encouraged to re-apply for their positions but Lowry has been invited to re-apply for the HC position. Reports indicate that he will not apply. My interpretation of firing would be getting let go while still under contract and the Jets being responsible to pay out the remainder of the contract. I have not seen any reports where the Jets will be responsible for paying any salary of the coaches whose contracts expired. How can someone be fired from an organization when they are no longer on the payroll?

I don't think "invited" to reapply is the right term. More like "free" to reapply.

Regardless, their contracts run until the end of the League Year which is July 12th this year. I imagine they're not involved in any team meetings and their desks are empty. So if it quacks like a duck....

I was going off blues 10 post here so I am guilty of not looking up the origin of the quotes. I will see if I can find out how it was communicated in between standing on my head to pull off the best Mother’s Day celebration ever for my kids mom, her mon, and her sister.

 

[tbcwpg]

You are most certainly not the only one. I’ve taken more shots than Helle vs the Avs over suggesting the same thing.

I think it’s some bizarre way for them to protect this “1st class organization “ image they so desperately want to maintain.

I think it was a spur of the moment response to not look bad, you're right about the protect the image thing but I don't believe Chevy went into the press conference with the idea of publicly inviting Lowry to reapply for the job he was just dismissed from. Just a poor judgment call on his part in the moment rather than a premeditated thing.

I think people put way too much into what people say at these press things. 98% of the time they're just off the cuff responses, fans read way too much into it and try to decipher the hidden message behind it. It's just a comment trying to be nice. It was just tone deaf.

 

[TS Quint]

You are trying to make a technicality into something meaningful. Fired vs not renewed is the same result. Both = fired.

Being allowed to interview to get their jobs back is a relatively new HR ploy. In this case it is a lame attempt to soften the blow. In fact, it is insulting to the former employees.

The coaches have been fired. The rest is BS.

I wonder if Maurice is going to be invited to interview for the HC vacancy?

It's not a technicality it's fact. It's funny how you jump into support something that you say isn't true then double down on it. it's a weird thing to do.

Why would Maurice be interviewed for the HC job?

If you just string along enough of these little lies you fall further down a slippery slope.

 

[SCP Guy]

Can we please use something that is at an all time low in the world these days? Let’s use some common sense and realize that what people say is not always what they mean (yes we get lied to all the time, get over it)….Lowry is not going to get interviewed for the vacant head coach job …. Hahahahahah man oh man

 

[TS Quint]

I really do not get your logic. They were fired. Plain and simple. I am not making anything up.
I will take a poll and let the others on here decide lol
At least we agree that there is plenty to criticize

You don't get my logic that people who work their full contracts as agreed aren't being fired? My logic is that it's a FACT they were not fired.

 

[tbcwpg]

You don't get my logic that people who work their full contracts as agreed aren't being fired? My logic is that it's a FACT they were not fired.

It's just really semantics. I think the issue people have with it is the invitation to reapply, not the fired vs not fired thing.