Meier knee Necas

[Blueline Bomber]

The Carolina color guy really wanted that to be a 5. Probably shouldn’t even have been a 2.

I’m really curious if the Jersey feed failed to show an angle or something, because I’ve seen this take a lot, and it flabbergasts me that so many Jersey fans apparently missed the elbow to the head.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I’m really curious if the Jersey feed failed to show an angle or something, because I’ve seen this take a lot, and it flabbergasts me that so many Jersey fans apparently missed the elbow to the head.

Literally said that was more of a major than what Timo did earlier in the thread lol

 

[chaz4hockey]

The Carolina color guy really wanted that to be a 5. Probably shouldn’t even have been a 2.

Nah, clear head shot. 5. Probably will get a fine too.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

You're literally taking a side, just like I'm a taking side. It's a message board, we are all here to pick sides and shoot the shit about which side we like more.

Anyone who even remotely watches soccer or has played it knows how to embellish contact. It's literally part of the game. To think that doesn't carry over into other sports is just beyond silly.

You are saying that the player was faking.

I am saying that I don’t know if the player was faking, but there is definitively no proof of your assertions (either from watching soccer or from said player returning).

Again, you say he’s faking. If I was “taking a side”, I would simply be saying “he’s not faking”.

Do you get it yet?

You’re countering me in imaginary arguments that you yourself have fabricated. “Anyone who has watched or played soccer knows how to embellish contact”. Okay….??? I would never argue such a statement. What I’m arguing is the idea that you can take such a thing and apply it as “proof” of your assertion in an entirely independent event.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Nah, I think he took a nasty hit to his knee and it probably f***ing hurt. I don't think you need to have a medical degree to look at that play and say knees probably shouldn't bend like that. The immediate reaction to such a hit would be to stay down and not put any weight on it, because your leg feels f***ing shattered at that point.

Agreed plus this happened to Necas a few years ago; he came back in the game but then was out a month.

Let’s see whether he makes the next practice.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Seriously, this is the hit that we’re complaining that Necas didn’t immediately spring up from?

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Seriously, this is the hit that we’re complaining that Necas didn’t immediately spring up from?

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Who said spring up? That's the whole argument. If he was legit hurt then he would at the least miss a shift or two getting looked at in the locker room or taken for tests ASAP. Not sure why Canes fans think Devils fans haven't seen similar injuries or seen their players get nailed like that to where they miss the whole game and upcoming games.

 

[Satans Hockey]

You are saying that the player was faking.

I am saying that I don’t know if the player was faking, but there is definitively no proof of your assertions (either from watching soccer or from said player returning).

Again, you say he’s faking. If I was “taking a side”, I would simply be saying “he’s not faking”.

Do you get it yet?

Bryce Salvador thought he was faking it as well. Same with Haula who went after him later in the game because he thought he faked it too. Keefe said it as well in a nicer way.

3 guys who have been in the NHL a long time think he was faking it and from actually watching the game, which you didn't, I firmly believe he was faking it.

I get it, you didn't pick a side but you sure love sticking up for someone who you don't want to pick a side about.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

that’s a legit knee. even if necas milks it that’s still a 5

 

[chaz4hockey]

Haula got penalized for that and I'd argue that was more of a major penalty than what Timo did but thanks for making my point. But good acting on Orlov jumping from the bench after he was on the ice for a minute too

Orlov!s nose was broken. Ever break your nose ? It hurts.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Who said spring up? That's the whole argument. If he was legit hurt then he would at the least miss a shift or two getting looked at in the locker room or taken for tests ASAP. Not sure why Canes fans think Devils fans haven't seen similar injuries or seen their players get nailed like that to where they miss the whole game and upcoming games.

Oh, so if he misses a shift then that’s enough to convince you that perhaps he was not faking? It’s that concrete? No missed shift = obviously faking. Misses shift or two = possibly not faking. It’s that concrete?

 

[Satans Hockey]

Seriously, this is the hit that we’re complaining that Necas didn’t immediately spring up from?

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This still looks way worse than the full video, especially at normal speed.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Who said spring up? That's the whole argument. If he was legit hurt then he would at the least miss a shift or two getting looked at in the locker room or taken for tests ASAP. Not sure why Canes fans think Devils fans haven't seen similar injuries or seen their players get nailed like that to where they miss the whole game and upcoming games.

And I’m sure you’ve watched enough hockey to have seen hits that look bad, but your players somehow are back for their next shift, right? And there are hits that look innocuous, but wind up causing the players to miss weeks. Judging how much someone is hurt based off whether they miss a shift or not is pretty foolish.

Bryce Salvador thought he was faking it as well. Same with Haula who went after him later in the game because he thought he faked it too. Keefe said it as well in a nicer way.

3 guys who have been in the NHL a long time think he was faking it and from actually watching the game, which you didn't, I firmly believe he was faking it.

Ah yes, the unbiased sources of Bryce Salvador, Haula and Keefe have judged that Necas was faking it. That’s like saying Jordan Staal, Martinook and Brindamour said he wasn’t faking it, so you should believe he wasn’t.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Bryce Salvador thought he was faking it as well. Same with Haula who went after him later in the game because he thought he faked it too. Keefe said it as well in a nicer way.

3 guys who have been in the NHL a long time think he was faking it and from actually watching the game, which you didn't, I firmly believe he was faking it.

I get it, you didn't pick a side but you sure love sticking up for someone who you don't want to pick a side about.

Not “sticking up for anyone”. Simply saying a player returning quickly after showing extreme pain directly after impact doesn’t prove fakery. Nor does said player being a fan of a PL team.

Oh, people with a vested interest in the game think the opposing player was doing them dirty after a quick return following a penalty call? Yeah, no shit. That is neither surprising nor proof of anything. “3 guys who have been in the NHL a long time”. Yeah and 3 guys that rightfully have a lot more targeted emotion than me determining their stance on the matter.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

And I’m sure you’ve watched enough hockey to have seen hits that look bad, but your players somehow are back for their next shift, right? And there are hits that look innocuous, but wind up causing the players to miss weeks. Judging how much someone is hurt based off whether they miss a shift or not is pretty foolish.

I've never seen a Devils player do that in recent memory but if you can find an example, I'm all ears. And again, Necas doing it for his team is fine, if a Devils player did that and the Devils won the game off of it, I wouldn't care. But I also wouldn't defend them if they called a diver by opposing fans or neutral fans of the league to the extent Canes fans/random guy is defending Necas

 

[Satans Hockey]

And I’m sure you’ve watched enough hockey to have seen hits that look bad, but your players somehow are back for their next shift, right? And there are hits that look innocuous, but wind up causing the players to miss weeks. Judging how much someone is hurt based off whether they miss a shift or not is pretty foolish.



Ah yes, the unbiased sources of Bryce Salvador, Haula and Keefe have judged that Necas was faking it. That’s like saying Jordan Staal, Martinook and Brindamour said he wasn’t faking it, so you should believe he wasn’t.

Bryce isn't remotely bias if you ever actually listen to his talk about the games. Since he joined the broadcast I've never heard him pissed off once before tonight's game. It was completely out of the norm for him.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Oh, so if he misses a shift then that’s enough to convince you that perhaps he was not faking? It’s that concrete? No missed shift = obviously faking. Misses shift or two = possibly not faking. It’s that concrete?

I'm sure the Hurricanes would be ok with their best forward this year just shrugging off trainers not to get looked at more if he was legit in pain. That sounds very aligned with their interests.

 

[Satans Hockey]

I've never seen a Devils player do that in recent memory but if you can find an example, I'm all ears. And again, Necas doing it for his team is fine, if a Devils player did that and the Devils won the game off of it, I wouldn't care. But I also wouldn't defend them if they called a diver by opposing fans or neutral fans of the league.

Remember we had that absolute goof Joe Blandisi doing horrible dives all over the place. People forget that a lot of these guys do dive and fake injuries, some of them are just way better about going about it than others.

Remember the league even tried to crack down on it for a bit with fines and stuff until they finally said this is hopeless and gave up on actually giving a shit about it.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Orlov!s nose was broken. Ever break your nose ? It hurts.

So much so that he hit Haula with the Roman Reigns superman punch without Haula realizing where he was lol

 

[Tryamw]

Like Skinner earlier this year and Norris?

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Remember we had that absolute goof Joe Blandisi doing horrible dives all over the place. People forget that a lot of these guys do dive and fake injuries, some of them are just way better about going about it than others.

Remember the league even tried to crack down on it for a bit with fines and stuff until they finally said this is hopeless and gave up on actually giving a shit about it.

Except Blandisi eventually got a rep and got called on it lol

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

And I’m sure you’ve watched enough hockey to have seen hits that look bad, but your players somehow are back for their next shift, right? And there are hits that look innocuous, but wind up causing the players to miss weeks. Judging how much someone is hurt based off whether they miss a shift or not is pretty foolish.



Ah yes, the unbiased sources of Bryce Salvador, Haula and Keefe have judged that Necas was faking it. That’s like saying Jordan Staal, Martinook and Brindamour said he wasn’t faking it, so you should believe he wasn’t.

We have reached the point of the argument where the poster is literally just adding material themselves that counters their own argument. It’s quite a sight.

Remember we had that absolute goof Joe Blandisi doing horrible dives all over the place. People forget that a lot of these guys do dive and fake injuries, some of them are just way better about going about it than others.

Remember the league even tried to crack down on it for a bit with fines and stuff until they finally said this is hopeless and gave up on actually giving a shit about it.

Why are you saying this? There is not a single poster in this thread who has argued against this statement.

No one, and I mean no one, is saying that there isn’t embellishment or diving in the NHL.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I've never seen a Devils player do that in recent memory but if you can find an example, I'm all ears. And again, Necas doing it for his team is fine, if a Devils player did that and the Devils won the game off of it, I wouldn't care. But I also wouldn't defend them if they called a diver by opposing fans or neutral fans of the league to the extent Canes fans/random guy is defending Necas

I’m not even talking about diving for a call. I’m asking if you’ve never seen someone boarded and your immediate thought is “Oh, that looks bad”, but it winds up not being as bad as it looks? You’ve never seen the a Devils player take a hit that looks bad, but doesn’t miss a shift because of it?

 

[Satans Hockey]

We have reached the point of the argument where the poster is literally just adding material themselves that counters their own argument. It’s quite a sight.



Why are you saying this? There is not a single poster in this thread who has argued against this statement.

No one, and I mean no one, is saying that there isn’t embellishment or diving in the NHL.

Because he was saying he doesn't remember any Devils player doing anything like this so I was reminding him about the great Blandisi.

I know you got it hot and heavy for me right now but not every post is about you right now babes.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I'm sure the Hurricanes would be ok with their best forward this year just shrugging off trainers not to get looked at more if he was legit in pain. That sounds very aligned with their interests.

What do you mean “shrugging off trainers”? He clearly consulted with the trainers.