McKenzie: Leafs looking at Bernier

[Fogelhund]

I don't think we can afford the package they would be asking for in terms of Carter, at this point.

It would solve one issue, but would probably open up a hole in young emerging talent, ready to take over at the NHL level.

Carter cost LA, Jack Johnson and a 1st. They got their cup.

Long-term deals, with a lower cap coming reduces the value of the player, though I don't think it is a huge drop.

Bozak, Mac A, Franson, Scrivens and 2nd for Bernier and Carter.

 

[FelixPotvin29]

Problem is, we got too many guys that are Okay, but not good enough for their positions on any playoff teams. Like MacArthur and Bozak. Kulemin isn't a top 6 guy, but at least he can play 3rd line. Brown is barely an NHLer. Reimer is maybe a backup, Scrivens probably not. So bring another young goalie with an upside, let's see what we got. Problem is- short season, easy to fool people.

How do you figure? Was he barely an NHLer on Anaheim's fourth line when they won the Stanley Cup?

 

[Chandrashekhar Limit]

I think Lindback is a good comparison. He got two 2nd's and a 3rd. Bernier is worth a little more I think, so 2nd + Good Prospect or a 16-30 1st Round Pick.

 

[FelixPotvin29]

Bozak, Mac A, Franson, Scrivens and 2nd for Bernier and Carter.

I'd do that in a second. Don't think LA would touch it. I figure you would have to do something like Kadri, Mac A, Scrivens and a 2014 1st.

 

[Rockinz]

Bernier is a better option than Lu at this point... Nonis likes him from those world championship days.

for the right price it would be a good move IMO

i could see them wanting a decent prospect and a 2nd rounder OR a backup goalie plus a pick.

Damigo + 2nd for Bernier

OR

Scrivens + 4th for Bernier

 

[Confucius]

By far, the worst excuse in all of HF Boards. And that's saying something...

Like scoring is any easier on a weaker team or any one player is the direct result of where a team finishes.

Give your head a shake.

Absolutely, if anything I'd think it would be more difficult to put up points on a weak team. Afterall it's not like a weak team keeps coming at you all game and are drawing penalties because other teams can't keep up..

 

[Morbo]

Bernier isn't worth much in a trade. If we're sending MacArthur and Marlies their way I'd want more than just an unproven young backup -- we've got at least one of those already.

 

[Duke Silver]

Not sure if this was already brought up, but it could be posturing to show the Canucks that Luongo isn't our only option.

 

[Dangles McGavin]

Bernier is a better option than Lu at this point... Nonis likes him from those world championship days.

for the right price it would be a good move IMO

i could see them wanting a decent prospect and a 2nd rounder OR a backup goalie plus a pick.

Damigo + 2nd for Bernier

OR

Scrivens + 4th for Bernier

D'Amigo is a much more important piece going forward than Scrivens.

Also don't want to trade our second round pick. I'd consider it, though.

 

[BertCorbeau]

If it's Bernier + another player, I wonder if Carlyle has dropped Penner's name in Nonis' ear? Not much of a physical player, but as a big bodied third line checker he could be decent .. And has equal offensive abilities as MacA

 

[Dangles McGavin]

If it's Bernier + another player, I wonder if Carlyle has dropped Penner's name in Nonis' ear? Not much of a physical player, but as a big bodied third line checker he could be decent .. And has equal offensive abilities as MacA

Do not want!

I do think that Carter could be obtained from them, but I'm not willing to pay much, and I see no reason for them to trade him.

 

[mccaber16]

D'Amigo is a much more important piece going forward than Scrivens.

Also don't want to trade our second round pick. I'd consider it, though.

I'm curious. What role do you project D'Amigo to develop into?

 

[FelixPotvin29]

If it's Bernier + another player, I wonder if Carlyle has dropped Penner's name in Nonis' ear? Not much of a physical player, but as a big bodied third line checker he could be decent .. And has equal offensive abilities as MacA

Interesting...

 

[LeafsNation75]

Not sure if this was already brought up, but it could be posturing to show the Canucks that Luongo isn't our only option.

If that's true it sure didn't work in the summer when we heard the Bernier trade talk to Toronto, along with the Luongo trade talk.

 

[Budsfan]

They have some good centers and I wouldn't mind trying to pry loose one of them and Bernier for some of our surplus players.

 

[Dangles McGavin]

I'm curious. What role do you project D'Amigo to develop into?

Probably a fourth line PK specialist.

His defensive game is phenomenal. He plays with heart. He's fast. He has some offensive upside. He's the type of player you want on your team.

He could definitely play a third line role if they want a shutdown line.

 

[Dangles McGavin]

They have some good centers and I wouldn't mind trying to pry loose one of them and Bernier for some of our surplus players.

Absolutely no chance that they trade Kopitar or Richards, but there's a chance that Carter could be available I would think. Not overly high on Carter though.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Rielly, Kadri and a 1st rounder
for
Bernier

 

[mccaber16]

Probably a fourth line PK specialist.

His defensive game is phenomenal. He plays with heart. He's fast. He has some offensive upside. He's the type of player you want on your team.

He could definitely play a third line role if they want a shutdown line.

Who is more valuable? Reimer or D'Amigo?

 

[Dangles McGavin]

Loktionov is an interesting player.

 

[DD03]

Rielly, Kadri and a 1st rounder
for
Bernier

You're joking right??

 

[Dangles McGavin]

Who is more valuable? Reimer or D'Amigo?

Reimer.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

You're joking right??

Yes but I am dead serious about getting a goalie. Reimer and Scrivens don't cut it.

 

[Leaf_Crazy]

lol @ all of you saying Bernier isnt worth much.

It's not all about stats. This kid has the talent to be a top 10 goalie in the NHL.

Id give Kadri + 2nd up for him easily.

 

[Leaf_Crazy]

Difference between Reimer and Bernier.

Reimer- terrible glove hand, worst recovery starting goaltender in the league. Terrible positioning.

Bernier- has all the talent in the world and has not been given a chance.

The choice is obvious, the question is how much we give up. If Bozak is the best peice we're giving up, I don't think you hesitate.

This exactly. Reimer doesnt have the talent to be a #1 in the NHL. Bernier does.