Value of: McDavid

[GCK]

There is no hope of a reasonable return for McDavid so the Oilers should simply make the smart moves right now.

1. Move Draisitl since they can’t afford to resign him. Should return a good haul.

2. Retain 3M and unload Nurse at all costs. Nurse at 6.25M is a decent D man.

3. Buyout Campbell in June.

Sure it means 5M in dead cap for a while but the team is broken.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

I think the Sabres have the assets to make a competitive offer. I just don’t see Edmonton moving him.

Tage Thompson + Owen Power for McDavid with a guarantee he would want to sign there for atleast 4 more years.

Is that too much?

 

[McSuper]

Three 1sts + Elite prospect + B prospect/young roster player

I guess it depends where the team is at. 3 lates first aren't very appealing if the team is currently at 10 to 15 overall maybe it is doable.

Lots of Oilers fans never agreed with me but I would have trade him and run Draisaitl and RNH as the 2 centres. Just have to build a line suited to RNH. A couple defensive minded rugged wingers.

Maybe on the next rebuild the Oilers will learn to build from the net out. Draft a highend goalie in the first round. Hire a proven goalie coach. Then draft D and draft more D. They would need to add a proven scouts and listen to him. Katz can not be wanting his way and overriding him like he did in the Yakupov draft.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

NJ has assets they could spend on McDavid...

Hischier
Bratt
Holtz
Mercer
Meier
Nemec
Marino
Siegenthaler
Casey
2 of their next 3 1sts

Not really sure what combination of assets would work for both sides but it does look possible a deal could be made. At least one of NJ's long term money deals would need to go the other way most likely.

If McDavid goes to NJ Hughes is going the other way

 

[McSuper]

There is no hope of a reasonable return for McDavid so the Oilers should simply make the smart moves right now.

1. Move Draisitl since they can’t afford to resign him. Should return a good haul.

2. Retain 3M and unload Nurse at all costs. Nurse at 6.25M is a decent D man.

3. Buyout Campbell in June.

Sure it means 5M in dead cap for a while but the team is broken.

I hear what you are saying but consider the cost of replacing Nurse. You say 6.25 is decent for Nurse so like assume that is the cost for the Oilers to replace him. They end up at the same cap.

 

[Guffman]

If McDavid goes to NJ Hughes is going the other way

LOL, no he is absolutely not. Hughes is 22 and has already broken out as a superstar player AND on a sweet contract securing him to 2030.

 

[GCK]

I hear what you are saying but consider the cost of replacing Nurse. You say 6.25 is decent for Nurse so like assume that is the cost for the Oilers to replace him. They end up at the same cap.

Hopefully with a better player.

 

[Guffman]

So, before we come up with trade offers, what would be the Oilers plan? Retool or rebuild?

Curious if you are looking for ”now” players or future players.

 

[hamzarocks]

Spurgeon straight up.

Was gonna say Slavin, but I don't think Carolina does that tbh

I think John Klingberg might be close to what your looking for

Send us Mcdavids brother..

 

[AvroArrow]

I guess it depends where the team is at. 3 lates first aren't very appealing if the team is currently at 10 to 15 overall maybe it is doable.

Lots of Oilers fans never agreed with me but I would have trade him and run Draisaitl and RNH as the 2 centres. Just have to build a line suited to RNH. A couple defensive minded rugged wingers.

Maybe on the next rebuild the Oilers will learn to build from the net out. Draft a highend goalie in the first round. Hire a proven goalie coach. Then draft D and draft more D. They would need to add a proven scouts and listen to him. Katz can not be wanting his way and overriding him like he did in the Yakupov draft.

IMO they should have traded Draisaitl earlier, his contract alone gave him immense value. Offence has never been a problem for the Oilers. I get it's appealing having McDavid + Drai up the middle, but the return for Draisaitl 1-2 years ago would have been massive. He still has great value now but the direction of the team is a big question mark at this point.

It's honestly such a shame, Holland might be the worst GM I have ever seen in any professional sport. Just inexcusable moves and non-moves if that makes sense. It's just insane that he still hasn't addressed the goaltending.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

LOL, no he is absolutely not. Hughes is 22 and has already broken out as a superstar player AND on a sweet contract securing him to 2030.

LOL he absolutely is
McDavid is a top 10 player of all time

 

[Heldig]

What a mess, I think Draisaitl would be the one who gets dealt but if you trade Draisaitl Mcdavid will most likely want a trade or walk in free agency. You have so much salary tied up in them you have to trade one of them to fix goaltending and depth.

Trading Nurse is virtually impossible.

I agree. Draisatl will bring back a good haul. Dubois brought back 2 top 6 wingers and a good 4th liner. So a lot more than that.

Draisatl has a 10 team no trade list so doubtful a non playoff team can acquire him. A contender cant gut their team to upgrade the 1C position. I was thinking Washington might be a fit but they are in second place in their division now.

Edmonton is in tough to "fix" the team.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Tyler Boucher + 2nd rounder.

 

[YP44]

I agree. Draisatl will bring back a good haul. Dubois brought back 2 top 6 wingers and a good 4th liner. So a lot more than that.

Draisatl has a 10 team no trade list so doubtful a non playoff team can acquire him. A contender cant gut their team to upgrade the 1C position. I was thinking Washington might be a fit but they are in second place in their division now.

Edmonton is in tough to "fix" the team.

I think that sort of deal is best left to the draft. Edmonton dealing Leon has been the move they are too scared to make for a couple of years now. At this point, two years out of McDavid being a FA, would need his sign off on moving Leon though.

 

[Djp]

sabres and nj could dangle a couple of those. wings could do something but would have to add draft picks. ottawa has been signing guys longterm and is well positioned. stutzle plus could work.

but i think other teams with older rosters could offer some creative value by peeling off one ot two current good players and bundling them with futures..

to me, mcdavid is the only player for whom you give up your 1c if you are in a position to support mcdavid now. he can win a cup if he joins a playoff team without too many current assets going the other way.

Stuzle, Hughes, and other U23 centers are not coming back in return for McDavid when they are on 6+ yrs remaining in thrir prime for a player who can walk in 2026.

Tage Thompson + Owen Power for McDavid with a guarantee he would want to sign there for atleast 4 more years.

Is that too much?

therr is no way in knowing If he will resign. Buffalo isn’t trading Power.

I agree. Draisatl will bring back a good haul. Dubois brought back 2 top 6 wingers and a good 4th liner. So a lot more than that.

Draisatl has a 10 team no trade list so doubtful a non playoff team can acquire him. A contender cant gut their team to upgrade the 1C position. I was thinking Washington might be a fit but they are in second place in their division now.

Edmonton is in tough to "fix" the team.

Drai will need to wait post draft and do an extension with new club.. trading him now won’t return as much given uncertainty on resigning

 

[krutovsdonut]

Tage Thompson + Owen Power for McDavid with a guarantee he would want to sign there for atleast 4 more years.

Is that too much?

a bit of an overpayment but that might be the price.

 

[Guffman]

LOL he absolutely is
McDavid is a top 10 player of all time

I am not disagreeing with that but you cannot ignore the salary cap differential.

If I was a Devils fan, I would pass using Hughes as a basis of a trade.

 

[krutovsdonut]

Stuzle, Hughes, and other U23 centers are not coming back in return for McDavid when they are on 6+ yrs remaining in thrir prime for a player who can walk in 2026.

therr is no way in knowing If he will resign. Buffalo isn’t trading Power.


Drai will need to wait post draft and do an extension with new club.. trading him now won’t return as much given uncertainty on resigning

hughes i very much doubt. stutzle would be moved in a second for mcdavid. powers too.

draisaitl is for a different thread. in this thread we are trading mcdavid.

 

[Guffman]

I agree. Draisatl will bring back a good haul. Dubois brought back 2 top 6 wingers and a good 4th liner. So a lot more than that.

Draisatl has a 10 team no trade list so doubtful a non playoff team can acquire him. A contender cant gut their team to upgrade the 1C position. I was thinking Washington might be a fit but they are in second place in their division now.

Edmonton is in tough to "fix" the team.

When you say “two top 6 wingers”, I would think better quality than Vilardi and Iafallo. One is a 2nd/3rd line older player, the other one is injury prone and still not a proven player.

 

[CatchyTune]

LOL he absolutely is
McDavid is a top 10 player of all time

So by that logic Crosby is currently worth more than anyone else in the league?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

So by that logic Crosby is currently worth more than anyone else in the league?

You know the difference between this conclusion and what I said

 

[DomBarr]

it's time to discuss this. ignore the oilers fans in denial and let's discuss where the best player in the league ends up after this season.

post your team's real cap compliant offers.

oilers won't trade him to the canucks so i'll spectate.

Arizona - McDavid
Edmonton -
2024 1st and 2 2nds, 2025 1st and 2 2nds, and a 2026 1st and 2 2nds and $12.5 M in cap space.

The assumption is if they are stupid enough to trade him then they are rebuilding.

 

[Guffman]

You know the difference between this conclusion and what I said

Just getting back to the salary cap differential… Connor McDavid signed for 16.667% of the league cap (many restricted years eaten up). When McDavid signs a new contract, I think he would eat a similar % of total cap… and if the cap is about $90M at the time of resigning, that’s a $15M AAV contract. No one would be surprised at that number since he really is the best forward in the league.

Comparing $15M AAV to Hughes $8M AAV, I think you’re getting much better value from Hughes that would allow the Devils to pump up the rest of the team.

Arizona - McDavid
Edmonton -
2024 1st and 2 2nds, 2025 1st and 2 2nds, and a 2026 1st and 2 2nds and $12.5 M in cap space.

McDavid to Toronto, Matthews to Arizona… plug a bunch of draft picks where needed and excitement for all! Well… maybe not Oiler fans but screw ‘em heh.

 

[Bankerguy]

Just for fun
Lets say the Oilers want to rebuild.

McDavid to Buffalo for: Cozens(C), Power(LD), Joki(RD), Levi(G), 1st 2025

Draisaitle and Campbell to the Wild for: Faber (RD), Rossi (C), Boldy(LW), Wallstedt (G)

Move RNH for Picks and Nurse to whoever will take him.
As your young guys get better, you draft wise and go UFA shopping as older contracts come off the book. Set your contender window to 2027

 

[krutovsdonut]

Arizona - McDavid
Edmonton -
2024 1st and 2 2nds, 2025 1st and 2 2nds, and a 2026 1st and 2 2nds and $12.5 M in cap space.

The assumption is if they are stupid enough to trade him then they are rebuilding.

for me the assumption is they will have no choice. he will demand a trade to get the hell out of there. the fact they hired his agent into hockey ops and signed his buddy to a stupid deal should tell you he was already unhappy before this season started and they were in full on appeasement mode.

i would expect the oilers would want retool pieces plus some futures. a pure futures deal seems unlikely because the oilers need something to sell immediately to help get the fanbase over the shock. sort of like the recent calgary situation on steroids.

arizona to me lacks the quality young pieces in key positions.