Proposal: McDavid to LA

kilowatt

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I'll just say without commenting on value that I'm not super impressed with Byfield or Turcotte as prospects

That's part of the premise of this thread: LA seems incapable of developing elite offensive prospects. Perhaps someone else could.
 

ChaoticOrange

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That's part of the premise of this thread: LA seems incapable of developing elite offensive prospects. Perhaps someone else could.

Okay, well, pivoting to "let's talk about the value", Edmonton isn't going to trade McDavid in-division where two of the top pieces are falling-star prospects.
 
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bernmeister

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To Edmonton: Byfield, Clarke, Turcotte, Bjornfot, 2022 1st, 2023 1st

To LA: McDavid

Fire away
It is a very signif offer worthy of consideration, tho I'd want something better than Turcotte.
Howev, Oil will hold on to this generational unless/until he heads up he wants out, but not giving further extension.
When is that, anyway?
 

kilowatt

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Okay, well, pivoting to "let's talk about the value", Edmonton isn't going to trade McDavid in-division where two of the top pieces are falling-star prospects.

For sure. Edmonton obvisouly isn't going to trade McDavid, and LA wouldn't pay that price even if Edmonton wanted to, but I wanted to generate discussion and it seems I did that. My goal was to get into the same ballpark of value, and hopefully I achieved that... but it's pretty hard to put a price on an invaluable player.
 

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Okay, well, pivoting to "let's talk about the value", Edmonton isn't going to trade McDavid in-division where two of the top pieces are falling-star
Okay, well, pivoting to "let's talk about the value", Edmonton isn't going to trade McDavid in-division where two of the top pieces are falling-star

McDavid to Montreal for:

Suzuki
2023 1st
2023 1st
Prospect
Prospect
 

nbwingsfan

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To Edmonton: Byfield, Clarke, Turcotte, Bjornfot, 2022 1st, 2023 1st

To LA: McDavid

Fire away
They would never trade him without an actual established top 6 player with upside coming back.
Right now it’s two struggling C prospects, a great D prospect but with big defensive game questions (Oilers already have that), a bottom pair D and a couple mid 1sts

Way too much risk
 

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Off the top of my head have the assets that would get me to move McDavid/Draisaitl. I like Byfield/Turcotte but I don't think they're a centerpiece in a McDavid trade. Think of a team that has at least 2 of surefire #1D/#1C/#1G young players.
 

Tetragrammaton

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Not even close. Suzuki is a great piece and your 2023 pick is a lottery pick so thats a good start but the other pieces are meh for McDavid.
I included 2 prospects in there of your choice, we have very solid defence prospects that are almost guaranteed to be NHL players (Guhle, Barron) for example. Suzuki is also 2.5 years younger and will improve more, he should stabilize as a PPG 2 way centerman and he’s signed for 8 more years at $7.875 mil. You’re also getting two 1st round picks unprotected.

Draisaitl
Suzuki
Nudgent

You are still the best team in the league at the center position.
 

2-4 Slashin

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When Gretsky was traded The then owner of the oilers was in need of big bucks and that trade included big bucks.
Now the owner is Katz, he is already rich If you want McDavid then your offer will start at a ton of drafts and prospects and that BIG FAT CHECK of about 1 billion USD CASH because Katz has a marketing cash cow ( McDavid) worth about 250 Million USD each year and he is only 25 so thats at least 8 more years at 250Million in marketing money.
Cash transaction are not allowed in the NHL. Partially because of the Gretzky trade as it turns out.
 

2-4 Slashin

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Love Byfield but see nothing special with Turcotte (oft injured) and Bjornfot.

Byfield, Faber (or Grans), Clarke, 2022 1st, 2023 1st.

Both fanbase would scream - so it's probably within range :)
You’d have to make the the 2023 1st a 2024 1st and I’d ask for a 2024 2nd back.
 

2-4 Slashin

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None of those players from LA are guaranteed to be stars in the NHL. In fact, there's as good chance at least 2 of them will be busts.
That’s a risk you take when you trade for prospects and picks. Hence the nickname “magic beans”. These kinds of trades never work to the benefit of the team who owns the star players rights. So you take what will help you the best long term, or you waste years off of McDavids contract by holding out for a dream trade, which will only lessen his trade return and probably make him resentful of the Oilers.
Of course this is all based on wether McDavid asks for a trade or not. And what has he said on that subject?
 

OilerTitanFan

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I included 2 prospects in there of your choice, we have very solid defence prospects that are almost guaranteed to be NHL players (Guhle, Barron) for example. Suzuki is also 2.5 years younger and will improve more, he should stabilize as a PPG 2 way centerman and he’s signed for 8 more years at $7.875 mil. You’re also getting two 1st round picks unprotected.

Draisaitl
Suzuki
Nudgent

You are still the best team in the league at the center position.
Bedard via Montreal lottery win in 2024
Draisaitl
Suzuki
Nuge

Guaranteed best team at center.
 

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