Just one game in a long season, but I'm already starting to think that there is something very seriously amiss deep inside the Oilers organization and we're only just now starting to see the symptoms.
McDavid questions Vancouver switching goalies and playing PP1 in 8-1 game
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nowhereman
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I think this pretty much sums up how I feel about these types of complaints as well. I think it's a different story in beer league or youth leagues, where there can be a massive difference in ability and it's somewhat disrespectful to continue to pour it on (i.e. the beer league team with a bunch of ex-junior/college ringers). But this is the NHL. And the Oilers are supposed to be contenders. If you don't want to be embarrassed, then get your act together and step up your game. Why should your opponent and divisional rival take it easy on you?
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CantHaveTkachev
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meh, no different than Mark Stone crying about getting hit by the minor leaguer
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I don’t know if you use the word “evidence” correctly there.
I always enjoy when a poster decides it’s them & their fav player vs everyone else on the HFBoards. (The famously anti-McDavid HFBoards lol.)
Video Nasty
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Good thing he said nothing of the sort. It's on you and 90% of the thread that you couldn't understand what he was talking about when he said "we don't like it." He was talking about their own horrible play.
North Cole
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It being evidence of something else doesnt mean its not evidence. If there's a word I used incorrectly, it's "everyone". Enjoy indeed.
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Some games your allegiance goes out the window and the “f*** it, let’s see how bad this can get” attitude kicks in
Typically yes, but if it’s a blow out and the opposition starts to get chippy, why not let the backup finish the last 10 or so minutes. Especially if the opposition is struggling to make any grade A chances
Not a single mention of an Art Ross on the first page, seem to be grasping at straws that don’t exist
8th, 9th season?
can't figure out he should worry about his room and not the opponent after this beatdown?
He should have listened to Torts 4 years ago instead of mocking him
can't figure out he should worry about his room and not the opponent after this beatdown?
He should have listened to Torts 4 years ago instead of mocking him
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Dessloch
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McDavid is the worst stad padder in the league in blow out games, he should just zip it! Dude has little class!
This is why you don’t name your captain based on skill level.
nowhereman
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Sure thing.
I never referred specifically to his last comment. He could have easily shrugged off the question but decided to bring up the goaltender swap and the PP1, which is thinly veined moaning. Considering the Berlin situation and McDavid/Draisaitl's pretty widely known of keeping their foot on the gas during blowouts, it comes off as hypocritical.
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McDavid was better off just letting that one go. This won't be the last time someone gets hammered like that. It might not even be the last time it happens to the Oilers
rfournier103
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I don’t know why, but I can’t stop laughing at this. I love this post.
Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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I don't see how that's an issue ?
McDavid constantly plays with puke on a regular basis, so one game Demko should be fine.
McDavid constantly plays with puke on a regular basis, so one game Demko should be fine.
StoveTopStauffer
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Can you point me to the time stamp where he says "we don't like that"?
Sure is a lot of "creative" interpretation of his words in this thread.
Video Nasty
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Video Nasty
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Yeah but if he shrugged it off, most of the demons here would croon how he’s a robot with no emotion or personality.
Happy Friday the 13th.
The Panther
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I absolutely agree with you.
The NHL is not a participation-ribbon League. Rick Tocchet and the Canucks did exactly the right thing (or at least, an entirely reasonable thing) by throwing out their best players in the third period of a blowout.
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen!!
I've been an Oilers' fan since 1984 or so, and I have no issue with saying that McDavid (my current favorite player, naturally) was talking out of his ass when he said that. I *think* what he was probably trying to do---as athletes tend to (see: Michael Jordan)---was fire himself up for the second game. You know, some locker-room motivational material.
But it's a stupid thing to say. If McDavid knew his Oilers' history (which he probably doesn't because he was born in 1997), he'd know that the Dynasty Oilers often sent out Gretzky and Kurri with two minutes left in a 12-2 game. And nobody should have any problem with that.
The Panther
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A fairly silly comment, as countless Stanley Cup winners have lost game one of the regular season. The 1986-87 Oilers were 5-9-0 on the road to start the season, despite having probably the best line-up in the history of the franchise, but later won the Cup. The 1989-90 Oilers were 6-9-5 to start the season, out of a playoff spot in mid-November, and then lifted the Cup in May. More recent? The 2005-06 Oilers were 1-4-0 on the road to start the season (and 3-6-1 overall) before winning the Western Conference. And, outside of Edmonton, the 2018-19 St. Louis Blues were 9-13-4 to start the season... and then won the Cup.
Point being: Nobody remembers game one by the next spring.
That being said, I have argued for a few years now that there is certainly some sort of "leadership" locker-room issue with the current Oilers' group. It is definitely not a coaching issue because the past three coaches have all overseen this same problem.
The problem is that the club is very often not ready to go at the drop of the puck. It's bizarre, but it's been this way since late-Todd McLellan era. In about 85% of Oilers' games, the opposition appears far more energetic and composed in the first 20 minutes of games.
I'm speculating, but my impression is that the core Nuge-McDavid-Drai-Nurse leadership style, or maybe the chemistry of it, is not really suitable to pushing teammates to be ready to go. You know, sometimes you need a hard-ass / scary style of teammate to push other guys' buttons a bit, and I'm just not sure that the current core group are doing that.
At this point, I'd take a Jason Smith type (if we can't get a Mark Messier type!).
"creative" interpretation?
@2:53
Good leaders don't whine about opposing teams pulling their starting goalie or playing their first PP unit in a blowout.. They typically focus on their own team.
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North Cole
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"McScoring Titles would be out there in a 10-0 game in the 3rd trying to score like it was OT."
Last I checked the Art Ross is the scoring title trophy. Let me know when that changes though.
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