McDavid heating up, what are odds on 150 points this season?

[Voodoo Child]

So you don’t actually know…

Enlighten me then.

 

[chauron]

16 points to go, he should be there in 8-9 games

 

[Garbageyuk]

Enlighten me then.

Tf? Idk that’s why I was asking.

 

[Voodoo Child]

Tf? Idk that’s why I was asking.

Hard to find man.

As far as I can tell he has 29-32 4+ Point games and ten this year.

Stevie, Jagr, Bossy and Dionne have 55-63 to round out 3-7.

10 is certainly more than some guys in the Hall - but who?

Google doesn’t even know.

 

[silkyjohnson50]

Such as?

Guys already in who he has more than: Gainey, Carbonneau, Larionov, Neely, Sedin

Guys who will be inducted who he’s ahead of: Datsyuk, Toews

I think he’s tied w/ Kopitar at the moment

Guys who are already in or will be inducted that he has a chance of catching or matching before the season ends: Alfredsson, Iginla, Hossa, Bergeron

I’m sure I’m missing some recent ones and I’d imagine there’s several more, especially from back in the day.

 

[alphahelix]

Guys already in who he has more than: Gainey, Carbonneau, Larionov, Neely, Sedin

Guys who will be inducted who he’s ahead of: Datsyuk, Toews

I think he’s tied w/ Kopitar at the moment

Guys who are already in or will be inducted that he has a chance of catching or matching before the season ends: Alfredsson, Iginla, Hossa, Bergeron

I’m sure I’m missing some recent ones and I’d imagine there’s several more, especially from back in the day.

I mean, theres lots of D-men

 

[Frank Drebin]

7 of his remaining 12 games are against San Jose, Arizona and Anaheim.

He needs 12 goals and 26 points to hit 70/160.

That would be just wild

 

[Satire]

McDavid is top in almost every offensive production metric currently. Aside from the usual metrics I am sure most are familiar with, he is also 3rd in short handed points... Absolute insanity.

 

[Juxta Position]

Lemeiux also likely averaged 8-9 mins on the PP each game if you do some research.

And 40% of Lemieux's career points came on the powerplay. People like to slag McDavid for being a powerplay monger, but Lemieux was way more reliant on the PP for his points, but no one ever brings that up to denigrate Mario.

all this "Mcpowerplay" garbage that you see to run down McDavid is ridiculous, ALL good players feast on the powerplay, that's part of what makes them good, when you're a man down, they exploit it.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

 

[KCC]

And 40% of Lemieux's career points came on the powerplay. People like to slag McDavid for being a powerplay monger, but Lemieux was way more reliant on the PP for his points, but no one ever brings that up to denigrate Mario.

all this "Mcpowerplay" garbage that you see to run down McDavid is ridiculous, ALL good players feast on the powerplay, that's part of what makes them good, when you're a man down, they exploit it.

mcdavid also tied Crosby‘s best season for power play points so for all the talk about him living on the pp, Crosby also did in 06/07 when he had 61 of his 120 points. Half. Lol.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

Guys already in who he has more than: Gainey, Carbonneau, Larionov, Neely, Sedin

Guys who will be inducted who he’s ahead of: Datsyuk, Toews

I think he’s tied w/ Kopitar at the moment

Guys who are already in or will be inducted that he has a chance of catching or matching before the season ends: Alfredsson, Iginla, Hossa, Bergeron

I’m sure I’m missing some recent ones and I’d imagine there’s several more, especially from back in the day.

McDavid has 32 (regular season) games with 4+ points.

This isn't a comprehensive list, but he already has more than these HOF forwards - Bob Gainey (3), Guy Carbonneau (5), Daniel Sedin (7), Clark Gillies (8), Cam Neely (10), Martin St. Louis (10), Henrik Sedin (10), Daniel Alfredsson (14), Marian Hossa (14), Bill Barber (16), Steve Shutt (17), Jacques Lemaire (17), Mats Sundin (17), Mike Modano (18), Pavel Bure (18), Brendan Shanahan (20), Joe Nieuwendyk (20), Paul Kariya (20), Mike Gartner (21), Jarome Iginla (21), Dave Andreychuk (22), Joe Mullen (22), Sergei Fedorov (22), Bernie Federko (23), Lanny McDonald (25), Peter Forsberg (26), Eric Lindros (26), Doug Gilmour (26), Michel Goulet (27), Pat LaFontaine (28), Bobby Clarke (28), Darryl Sittler (29), Dino Ciccarelli (30), and Glenn Anderson (30).

If you're including future HOF'ers he's also ahead of Patrick Marleau (9), Jonathan Toews (10), Anze Kopitar (10), Pavel Datsyuk (10), Patrik Elias (12), Patrice Bergeron (13), Henrik Zetterberg (16), Ryan Getzlaf (18), Steve Stamkos (19), Patrick Kane (19), Nikita Kucherov (21), Joe Thornton (28) and Evgeni Malkin (28). He's tied with Alex Ovechkin (32).

 

[Calderon]

He might make this list (top 25 all time) next season:

Who Has The Most Games With 4 Or More Points In Their Career In The NHL | StatMuse

Wayne Gretzky had the most games with 4+ points, with 217 games.

www.statmuse.com

 

[authentic]

the best ive heard someone explain it is, Gretkzy is the best all time, but if you had to put someone on the ice for one game in their prime it would be mario

Yeah Lemieux was arguably better at his best plus he was able to stay a lot closer to his dominant peak goal scoring level as he aged than Gretzky was, and against evolved goaltenders that weren't still stand up only with tiny equipment from the early to mid 80s. I believe he simply was more physically equipped to dominate in a modern setting but there's no denying their careers as they played out have Gretzky far ahead as #1 all-time.

Still though I don't think even think a healthy Lemieux would've had the consistency Gretzky did in the regular season and playoffs but arguably would've had the better peak as he played through serious injuries in his peak seasons and they were still essentially equal to Gretzky's best.

 

[Hynh]

His pace was his actual level of play that season, his brutal health issues don’t change that, but yes a 28 year old mid prime Jagr was better than 35 year old “just retired for 3 seasons due to his health” Lemieux that season, and McDavid this season was better than that year of Lemieux or Jagr. This is literally my entire point though. Can you honestly say McDavid in almost 10+ years with the worst possible case scenario for his health going forward would be in close competition points wise with his current self? Because Lemieux was, and he did it in a much worse scoring environment back in the clutch-and-grab days.

Part of being old and broken is being unable to play the full season or not being able to play it at full ability, not that Lemieux ever was capable of that (except that year in Laval when he skipped the WJC to pad his junior stats).

As for the bolded, he might if he has one of the best forwards of all time on the same line and outproducing him. Jagr had a point on 53 of 76 points Lemieux got that year. By comparison Draisaitl has points on only 64 of 134 points McDavid has scored this year.

 

[authentic]

Jagr definitely helped Lemieux with his production in 2001, but Lemieux didn't need him.

Jagr is pretty underrated on these forums imo, but McDavid is better than him.

Jagr helped his goal scoring for sure, especially at even strength.

In 2002-03 Lemieux had 11 goals and 45 points in his first 21 games, and 25 goals and 83 points in his first 52. This was when he was 37 years old so that's arguably almost as impressive as his comeback season. Also played 5:39 on the powerplay which was down from 6:24 in 2001.

 

[authentic]

7 of his remaining 12 games are against San Jose, Arizona and Anaheim.

He needs 12 goals and 26 points to hit 70/160.

That would be just wild

Then he still has 5 games left to get 170

 

[Shibumi]

The '71 Bruins had 7 of the league's top 9 scorers. That is a ridiculous level of roster disparity.

Didn't they also set a league record for most 20 goal scorers in one season?

 

[TANK200]

Didn't they also set a league record for most 20 goal scorers in one season?

That was in a different season.

Title of the thread should be renamed to "what are the odds on 160 points this season".

 

[KCC]

7 of his remaining 12 games are against San Jose, Arizona and Anaheim.

He needs 12 goals and 26 points to hit 70/160.

That would be just wild

It depends how much EDM decides to sleepwalk through those teams. They tend to get up for the tough match ups and completely check out against the bad ones. lol

 

[cupface52]

mcdavid also tied Crosby‘s best season for power play points so for all the talk about him living on the pp, Crosby also did in 06/07 when he had 61 of his 120 points. Half. Lol.

What's really impressive is that when Crosby scored 61PPP, Selanne was 5th with 48 PPP.

McDavid has 61 currently, 5th in PPP scoring is Marner with 33.

 

[Calderon]

It depends how much EDM decides to sleepwalk through those teams. They tend to get up for the tough match ups and completely check out against the bad ones. lol

Clinching the playoffs might make them relax quite a bit as well. Last season the Avs clinched the playoffs, exhaled, and proceeded to lose six of their final seven games. That kind of thing would more than likely affect scoring.

 

[Aaaaaaaaaaaaa]

McDavid is possessed. i don't see anything (making the playoffs, playing weaker teams) slowing him down. He is feasting right now, and looks as hungry as he did in November.

 

[Seanaconda]

I don't know if there's a stat on this or not, but I've been seeing a lot of players in highlights scoring these this year too - it's like he's popularized it.

It's always been a good move because it gives the goalie two things to cover you either go 5hole or strong side and 5 hole opens up while sliding , lots of the guys that were good at shootouts back when I watched them had the 5 hole shot in their inventory

 

[Mav3rick07]

Clinching the playoffs might make them relax quite a bit as well. Last season the Avs clinched the playoffs, exhaled, and proceeded to lose six of their final seven games. That kind of thing would more than likely affect scoring.

As an Oilers fan, I have no problem with McDavid taking his foot off the gas during the last stretch of regular season games to save some juice for the playoffs.