McDavid heating up, what are odds on 150 points this season?

[deca guard]

get karlson on this roster and start the dynasty run . put all the chips on the table = 2023 1st - holloway - broberg , i dont care who . the big 2 are in prime right now and karlsons the offense generator from back end that they need . it would be like gretzky-messier-coffee all over again

 

[Garbageyuk]

get karlson on this roster and start the dynasty run . put all the chips on the table = 2023 1st - holloway - broberg , i dont care who . the big 2 are in prime right now and karlsons the offense generator from back end that they need . it would be like gretzky-messier-coffee all over again

If the Oilers management finds a way to make the Karlsson trade happen, I’ll respect them win or lose.

Barrie needs to go the other way though, which will increase the price. There needs to be retention on Karlsson, and the Oilers probably need to dump salary in another move.

There are a lot of hurdles to clear for this to happen, but I’d love to see it.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

Like I said, I’ll stand by it.

Considering how long it took to get there, I kind of doubt it. And to preempt any future goalpost moving, of course it’s possible - just not likely, let alone “very likely” that he slows to 1.18 P/GP from 1.80 over the final 28 or misses significant time.

 

[Bfan14]

Not that crazy

When was the last time that happened, especially at the 53 game mark?

 

[deca guard]

If the Oilers management finds a way to make the Karlsson trade happen, I’ll respect them win or lose.

Barrie needs to go the other way though, which will increase the price. There needs to be retention on Karlsson, and the Oilers probably need to dump salary in another move.

There are a lot of hurdles to clear for this to happen, but I’d love to see it.

i know its easy for me to sit here and say go all in . but the other side of that coin is if it doesnt work youve killed cap space and traded bright prospects adding up to destroying what could start as a 4 year mcdavid dynasty run next season with the young guys possibly stepping up . ide hate being an nhl gm because its tricky af , and one injury in a game full of injuries destroys the season . now when im thinking about injuries im thinking no way i trade for karlson , lol

 

[Video Nasty]

Not loving it at all, honestly. Habs are my first team, Oilers 2nd.

Not good for the tank, or for McDavid’s amazing season. Contrary to your made up narrative, I want McDavid to get as many points as possible, instead of being right on some archaic message board.

Stay mad though

 

[authentic]

It's very clearly better than anything Crosby has done assuming he keeps the same pace

Pretty interesting though how good Crosby looked compared to the rest after a few more games in 2006-07.

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[Garbageyuk]

Considering how long it took to get there, I kind of doubt it. And to preempt any future goalpost moving, of course it’s possible - just not likely, let alone “very likely” that he slows to 1.18 P/GP from 1.80 over the final 28 or misses significant time.

It didn’t take long to get there. You initially came at me about whether or not other posters said he’d increase his pace or hit 160, asking me to find those posts instead of you doing it yourself. Once another poster corroborated what I said, you switched your focus to the 150 claim, and then the 130 topic.

That’s the “goalpost moving” you accused me of, and you are now also being disingenuous (something else you accused me of) by pretending you were talking about 130 the whole time.

I never denied anything. And nope; injuries, resting, reduced minutes, etc were always part of my stance on the 130 issue. Nice try.

 

[Video Nasty]

Pretty interesting though how good Crosby looked compared to the rest after a few more games in 2006-07.

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Then his pace plummeted with 25 points in his final 23 games and he ultimately won the Art Ross by 6 points.

It was a terrific run by Crosby and a highlight of his career. Unfortunately, it also serves as some proof that he could never replicate two similar high scoring complete halves of the same season which McDavid has done multiple times.

 

[Garbageyuk]

i know its easy for me to sit here and say go all in . but the other side of that coin is if it doesnt work youve killed cap space and traded bright prospects adding up to destroying what could start as a 4 year mcdavid dynasty run next season with the young guys possibly stepping up . ide hate being an nhl gm because its tricky af , and one injury in a game full of injuries destroys the season . now when im thinking about injuries im thinking no way i trade for karlson , lol

There’s no way they are winning, let alone a dynasty if they don’t make a big move, soon. They need a true stud #1 two-way D, and wingers that can grind, crash and bang while also keeping up with and complementing McDrai.

Karlsson isn’t the type of D they need, but the addition of his offensive abilities would put them so far into uncharted territory offensively that it might just work. Who knows what would happen, that’s why it would be so exciting.

 

[authentic]

Then his pace plummeted with 25 points in his final 23 games and he ultimately won the Art Ross by 6 points.

It was a terrific run by Crosby and a highlight of his career. Unfortunately, it also serves as some proof that he could never replicate two similar high scoring complete halves of the same season which McDavid has done multiple times.

He finished that season with 120 points in 79 games. McDavid's best full season was 123 in 81 last season. He also did this with 2 minutes less ice time per game.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Then his pace plummeted with 25 points in his final 23 games and he ultimately won the Art Ross by 6 points.

It was a terrific run by Crosby and a highlight of his career. Unfortunately, it also serves as some proof that he could never replicate two similar high scoring complete halves of the same season which McDavid has done multiple times.

He had a broken foot?

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

It didn’t take long to get there. You initially came at me about whether or not other posters said he’d increase his pace or hit 160, asking me to find those posts instead of you doing it yourself. Once another poster corroborated what I said, you switched your focus to the 150 claim, and then the 130 topic.

That’s the “goalpost moving” you accused me of, and you are now also being disingenuous (something else you accused me of) by pretending you were talking about 130 the whole time.

I never denied anything. And nope; injuries, resting, reduced minutes, etc were always part of my stance on the 130 issue. Nice try.

This is brutal. That wasn’t even me. I only said that if you make a claim, it’s your responsibility to back it up. The other thing was another poster.

I’m starting to see why you can’t keep up with your own claims.

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Called it. He’s slowing down, and yes, his slumps are better than a lot of players’ hot streaks, but that won’t get him to 150.

The house always wins. Ridiculous how some posters here kept insisting he’s an absolute lock to do something incredibly unlikely, something that only 5 players ever have done, something that has never been seen in the modern NHL. Big crow feast at the end of the season for a few in here, but I expect them to backpedal already and no show when the time comes.

I wouldn’t care at all if they weren’t so obnoxious and condescending to me about it, but

Please find posters saying he’s a lock.

You’ve mentioned this numerous times without actually providing any evidence.

Glad to know the seasons over.

He’s also on pace for 148 still after even “slowing” down.

 

[Garbageyuk]

This is brutal. That wasn’t even me. I only said that if you make a claim, it’s your responsibility to back it up. The other thing was another poster.

I’m starting to see why you can’t keep up with your own claims.

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Lmao, everything you accuse me of, you have done yourself.

You’re just talking in circles now because you’re attempted gotcha didn’t work out the way you wanted.

What are you even getting out of this at this point? I’m done with you. The entire interaction with you has been nothing but petty squabbling which you initiated.

You clearly enjoy that and it’s worth your time, I guess. Have fun talking to yourself.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

Lmao, everything you accuse me of, you have done yourself.

You’re just talking in circles now because you’re attempted gotcha didn’t work out the way you wanted.

What are you even getting out of this at this point? I’m done with you. The entire interaction with you has been nothing but petty squabbling which you initiated.

You clearly enjoy that and it’s worth your time, I guess. Have fun talking to yourself.

Says the guy who told me to move on multiple posts ago. I get that you’re embarrassed by your initial bad take, but this would have gone a lot better for you if you just said “maybe it’s not likely that he’ll top out at 130 because statistical analysis does not support that.”

And because you’re intent on deflecting, I’ll reiterate that you had me confused with another poster for much of this discussion, so it may be prudent to revisit your position.

ETA: this guy puts a laugh emoji after whining non stop about having his dishonesty pointed out. Painful to watch.

 

[Garbageyuk]

ETA: this guy puts a laugh emoji after whining non stop about having his dishonesty pointed out. Painful to watch.

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[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

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Weren’t you done with me? Another story you can’t keep straight. Or were you just very likely to be done with me?

 

[CpatainCanuck]

Karlsson-Mcdavid-Draisaitl in 3 on 3 overtime would be quite something

 

[chauron]

Zero points, what a bust /s

 

[North Cole]

Zero points, what a bust /s

Better win the face off

 

[ElysiumAB]

get karlson on this roster and start the dynasty run . put all the chips on the table = 2023 1st - holloway - broberg , i dont care who . the big 2 are in prime right now and karlsons the offense generator from back end that they need . it would be like gretzky-messier-coffee all over again

Are we allowed to Report for spelling, grammar, or general keyboard abuse?

 

[Offtheboard412]

He finished that season with 120 points in 79 games. McDavid's best full season was 123 in 81 last season. He also did this with 2 minutes less ice time per game.

This is what makes me shake my head sometimes. You would think McDavid has had several 150 point seasons already the way some people talk. Yet after 7 seasons each, they both had one 120 point season each. Neither of them had the best single season point total of their era. Now it looks like this year McDavid is going to change that and I'm really hoping he stays healthy and plays all 82 games because its been a very long time since a generational talent has actually played a full 82 game season while at the absolute peak of their careers. Between Crosby (10/11, 12/13), Ovechkin (09/10), Malkin(11/12) and McDavid (20/21), all of them looked poised to hit the best numbers of their careers yet all of them missed time or had the season cut short those years due to injuries, suspensions, lockout, and covid. It has happened so often at this point I'm just waiting for McDavid to blow out a knee or take a puck to the face while standing 20 feet from the net.

 

[Mulletman]

get karlson on this roster and start the dynasty run . put all the chips on the table = 2023 1st - holloway - broberg , i dont care who . the big 2 are in prime right now and karlsons the offense generator from back end that they need . it would be like gretzky-messier-coffee all over again

Puljujarvi, Nurse, Kane and a 1st for Karlsson at 50 % retained.

 

[majormajor]

If the Oilers management finds a way to make the Karlsson trade happen, I’ll respect them win or lose.

Barrie needs to go the other way though, which will increase the price. There needs to be retention on Karlsson, and the Oilers probably need to dump salary in another move.

There are a lot of hurdles to clear for this to happen, but I’d love to see it.

Barrie is on a reasonable contract for what he brings.

San Jose will be signing players to worse deals over the next couple years, and they need an offensive RD replacement.

The 1sts from Edmonton will just be paying for the considerable retention on Karlsson. The Oilers cap dumps are reasonable pieces to move, even Foegele is only modestly overpaid.

 

[authentic]

This is what makes me shake my head sometimes. You would think McDavid has had several 150 point seasons already the way some people talk. Yet after 7 seasons each, they both had one 120 point season each. Neither of them had the best single season point total of their era. Now it looks like this year McDavid is going to change that and I'm really hoping he stays healthy and plays all 82 games because its been a very long time since a generational talent has actually played a full 82 game season while at the absolute peak of their careers. Between Crosby (10/11, 12/13), Ovechkin (09/10), Malkin(11/12) and McDavid (20/21), all of them looked poised to hit the best numbers of their careers yet all of them missed time or had the season cut short those years due to injuries, suspensions, lockout, and covid. It has happened so often at this point I'm just waiting for McDavid to blow out a knee or take a puck to the face while standing 20 feet from the net.

Yes and if 2010-11 and 2020-21 were full seasons for each they would probably have two. Besides the injury factor which hopefully won't be a problem the games do get harder later in the season, but McDavid is a notoriously strong finisher. Still it's a tough task to expect him to get 150 as even he could be in the midst of a mediocre 10 game stretch, you can't play this way the whole season and even if you did puck luck may not be on your side for part of it, among many other factors. This is why I've maintained he hits 140 or so, and even if he falls slightly short of that it should still be the best full season of the millenium.