GDT: May 16 • Semifinal • USA vs. Russia

[SanDogBrewin]

Great game by Team USA. Obviously, Russia was very fortunate to still be in a position to win with 12 minutes left. Russia deserves some kudos for burying a few and keeping the pressure on. I still want to know how an organized system like the one the US employed could be thrown together in such a short time? The only clue I have is that many of them had been through the NTDP system. The US was so big and fast, and with a system like that, they didn't need some of the big NHL names to contend for Gold.

You answered your own question. Most of the younger players were on the 2010 and 2013 WJC Gold Medal teams together and came up through the NTDP.

Also kudos to Bobrovsky he had a heck of a game and made tough saves when he needed too. Russia finished there chances in the 3rd when it counted and the US did not in the 1st 40 minutes.

 

[ViD]

Those pbp guys are not very good....Shipakyov...damn...

 

[Scotty B]

^^^ This. ^^^

I have not posted in a while but I needed to say something after watching Eichel play in this tournament.

When he did not perform at the WJR's, all his apologist blamed it on coaching and the fact that he was the center of the team.

Now, at the WC, he was suppose to excel, without being the centerpiece, against weak teams/players and he had only 6 points in 9 games. The current excuse? He's "too young".

Too many posters keep claiming he is a generational talent. In fact, one American poster claims he is one of 4 "American generational talents" in the next 3 years - perhaps that posters needs to look up "generational talent" in the dictionary.

Look...

I know the kid is talented. I know he has all the tools. I know he won the Hanna Barbera Award as the top U.S. NCAA hockey player - for whatever that's worth. All I'm asking is for the American posters to tune down their expectation. Just a bit. I mean, wouldn't it be nice, for once, to have a player exceed your expectation instead of having to deny, deny, deny and make excuses when he disappoints?

Just my 2 cents.

6 pts in 9 games, pas mal du tout...He's 18, ditto Larkin, ease up...pull back on dem reins...Get off ur HIGH

HOBEY HORSE

 

[OttawaRoughRiderFan*]

...pas mal du tout...

But NOT what you'd expect from a Generational Talent.

 

[phosphene*]

^^^ This. ^^^

I have not posted in a while but I needed to say something after watching Eichel play in this tournament.

When he did not perform at the WJR's, all his apologist blamed it on coaching and the fact that he was the center of the team.

Now, at the WC, he was suppose to excel, without being the centerpiece, against weak teams/players and he had only 6 points in 9 games. The current excuse? He's "too young".

Too many posters keep claiming he is a generational talent. In fact, one American poster claims he is one of 4 "American generational talents" in the next 3 years - perhaps that posters needs to look up "generational talent" in the dictionary.

Look...

I know the kid is talented. I know he has all the tools. I know he won the Hanna Barbera Award as the top U.S. NCAA hockey player - for whatever that's worth. All I'm asking is for the American posters to tune down their expectation. Just a bit. I mean, wouldn't it be nice, for once, to have a player exceed your expectation instead of having to deny, deny, deny and make excuses when he disappoints?

Just my 2 cents.

You'll find out when he's destroying Ottawa year in and year out.

 

[SanDogBrewin]

When he did not perform at the WJR's, all his apologist blamed it on coaching and the fact that he was the center of the team.

Now, at the WC, he was suppose to excel, without being the centerpiece, against weak teams/players and he had only 6 points in 9 games. The current excuse? He's "too young".

I know the kid is talented. I know he has all the tools. I know he won the Hanna Barbera Award as the top U.S. NCAA hockey player - for whatever that's worth. All I'm asking is for the American posters to tune down their expectation. Just a bit. I mean, wouldn't it be nice, for once, to have a player exceed your expectation instead of having to deny, deny, deny and make excuses when he disappoints? .

You know nothing about his talent except to find any way to bash him because of your hate for American hockey players or any player that isn't Canadian born. Basing your opinion off of some games at the WJC and this tournament is laughable but typical from you

His expectations were met, Eichel played well in this tournament. No one said he was going to dominate or said he was better than St. Crosby Lord of Hockey. If Eichel had been a point per game player you would have found a way to bash him anyways. Nothing to deny, Eichel at 18 years young, did just fine.

 

[Yakushev72]

Au contraire....u misunderstood... I have tons of R-E-S-P-E-C-T for the likes of Larkin, Eichel , Jones et al. NHL Brass willing, Their chance for the Brass ring, as in OG Gold, Will Come.

It was a star laden Russian side being schooled for 40 minutes by youngsters I was disparaging...And being schooled in the round robin game for 60 minutes, no less . Had Yanks buried a few of their many, MANY glorious chances, and had Bobrovski not stood on his head...This is Miracle , The Second Coming!

By star-laden, I assume you mean Malkin, Tarasenko, and an Ovechkin who played a game 7 Stanley Cup game late into the night on Wednesday on the other side of the ocean, and joined the team about 15 minutes before today's game. Unless you are the only one who considers Kulemin and Anisimov "stars," every one else in the lineup are KHL players. And the best KHL players (Radulov, Zaripov, Zaitsev, Denisov, etc.) were lost because of injury.

This is a patchwork team that nonetheless found its way to the Gold Medal game on the backs of players that guys like you who know very little about international hockey have never even heard of. Tomorrow's game is mostly a match up between the KHL and NHL superstars like Crosby and Spezza. According to your post, you are suggesting something like a 10-1 outcome tomorrow. I'll be interested to see if your Canucks can back you up on it.

 

[Scotty B]

By star-laden, I assume you mean Malkin, Tarasenko, and an Ovechkin who played a game 7 Stanley Cup game late into the night on Wednesday on the other side of the ocean, and joined the team about 15 minutes before today's game. Unless you are the only one who considers Kulemin and Anisimov "stars," every one else in the lineup are KHL players. And the best KHL players (Radulov, Zaripov, Zaitsev, Denisov, etc.) were lost because of injury.

This is a patchwork team that nonetheless found its way to the Gold Medal game on the backs of players that guys like you who know very little about international hockey have never even heard of. Tomorrow's game is mostly a match up between the KHL and NHL superstars like Crosby and Spezza. According to your post, you are suggesting something like a 10-1 outcome tomorrow. I'll be interested to see if your Canucks can back you up on it.

Spezza's hardly a superstar...and our team, despite its' obvious depth of talent is still quite young. Moreover, you've got MORE of ur A Team than we do. Also besides Malkin, Tarasenko, and Ovechkin, Kovalchuk is an ex-NHL superstar and may soon be again...And Chicago is expecting Big Things from Panarin, or so I hear...many of ur other KHL guys are quite familiar to us over here. Your ex-CCCP coach's grandson. c/o Phoenix, for example...

Hardly a patchwork team, that'd be Team USA!.

I wasn't saying our WC team isn't better than yours, this year. They ARE and will prove it tomorrow! I was saying u got schooled for 40 minutes today by a bunch kidz who depend on the likes of Eichel at 18, Larkin at 18 and Jones at 19. This is USA's U20 team vs established NHL & KHL stars, men vs boyz, for chrissakes!

u got lucky, and woulda been toast but for Bobrosky , so. like I said... coloUr me unimpressed

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

But NOT what you'd expect from a Generational Talent.

I expect more than one cup in a decade out of a generational talent (heck that is without actually having the second or third best player in the league with him) in the NHL or a Top 10 player all-time.... Seems people are unrelenting on that guy's status, curious double standard. Because clearly Crosby has defined an era which means he gets to wear that label whether or not he has met up with the typical output you would expect. Yeah two shortened tournaments where he has looked good to those that are not nitpicking are fatal to his overall projections...

Eichel has looked very good in this tournament. Pleased with his play, think he is going to be an exceptional hockey player, a top 10 player in the league is really the minimum I see when I watch him. We will find out soon enough.

 

[OttawaRoughRiderFan*]

I expect more than one cup in a decade out of a generational talent (heck that is without actually having the second or third best player in the league with him) in the NHL or a Top 10 player all-time.... Seems people are unrelenting on that guy's status, curious double standard. Because clearly Crosby has defined an era which means he gets to wear that label whether or not he has met up with the typical output you would expect. Yeah two shortened tournaments where he has looked good to those that are not nitpicking are fatal to his overall projections....

One Stanley Cup, 2 Olympic Golds, the Golden Goal, many awards and scoring titles.

If you don't feel Sid is a Generational Talent, that's fine.

Eichel has looked very good in this tournament. Pleased with his play, think he is going to be an exceptional hockey player, a top 10 player in the league is really the minimum I see when I watch him. We will find out soon enough.

I give Jack Eichel credit. He won the Huckleberry Award. Let's see how many more awards he wins once he gets to the NHL.

 

[Atas2000]

Malkin still wearing his Penguins gloves

Pretty much everybody on the national teams wears their usual gear. Kovalchuck had special gloves made for him for the national team 6 years ago and I considered him a show off.

 

[Atas2000]

One Stanley Cup, 2 Olympic Golds, the Golden Goal, many awards and scoring titles.

If you don't feel Sid is a Generational Talent, that's fine.

Do you actually now how many players have thwon the same amount of brass? Those are team awards and there were tons of important goals scored by 3rd and 4th liners. are they all now generational talens?

 

[Atas2000]

Spezza's hardly a superstar...

No.8 at PPG among active players is not a superstar? okay

and our team, despite its' obvious depth of talent is still quite young. Moreover, you've got MORE of ur A Team than we do. Also besides Malkin, Tarasenko, and Ovechkin, Kovalchuk is an ex-NHL superstar and may soon be again...And Chicago is expecting Big Things from Panarin, or so I hear...many of ur other KHL guys are quite familiar to us over here. Your ex-CCCP coach's grandson. c/o Phoenix, for example...

Thanks for proving you've no idea about the russian roster.

I wasn't saying our WC team isn't better than yours, this year. They ARE and will prove it tomorrow! I was saying u got schooled for 40 minutes today by a bunch kidz who depend on the likes of Eichel at 18, Larkin at 18 and Jones at 19. This is USA's U20 team vs established NHL & KHL stars, men vs boyz, for chrissakes!

Oh, 0-0 is getting schooled? okay

 

[Faterson]

I can't think of a team, unless you want to consider Austria and other lower-rung teams, that aren't missing some of their top players. Everyone is affected by the SC and injuries.

Austria was definitely also affected (Vanek, Grabner). Likely only Slovenia wasn't (this year).

 

[Canuck21t]

By star-laden, I assume you mean Malkin, Tarasenko, and an Ovechkin who played a game 7 Stanley Cup game late into the night on Wednesday on the other side of the ocean, and joined the team about 15 minutes before today's game. Unless you are the only one who considers Kulemin and Anisimov "stars," every one else in the lineup are KHL players. And the best KHL players (Radulov, Zaripov, Zaitsev, Denisov, etc.) were lost because of injury.

This is a patchwork team that nonetheless found its way to the Gold Medal game on the backs of players that guys like you who know very little about international hockey have never even heard of. Tomorrow's game is mostly a match up between the KHL and NHL superstars like Crosby and Spezza. According to your post, you are suggesting something like a 10-1 outcome tomorrow. I'll be interested to see if your Canucks can back you up on it.

This year's Team Russia is not as impressive as some other years, but compared to Team USA, it should be more dominant.

I'm very impressed with this American team. Looking at their names, they hands down outperform what most would expect of them. Canada has failed to pass the quater-finals for several years with quite better rosters. Bravo Team USA, you should be proud.

 

[Paxon]

Good game. Congrats to Russia. It was up for grabs for about 50 minutes and then they grabbed it. Hard for a USA fan to be disappointed with the team's effort, play, or even results in this tournament, unless they go out and lay a stinker tomorrow. Here's hoping Russia takes Gold, because I hate Team Canada.

 

[illpucks]

That 2 on 0 Malkin EN goal

Justin Faulk's backcheck was flawless

The enthusiasm in the slapshot

 

[BobDobolina]

Oh goodie, KevyD is back...

 

[BobDobolina]

Epic announcer but what the hell is that accent?

 

[PaulieVegas]

^^^ This. ^^^

I have not posted in a while but I needed to say something after watching Eichel play in this tournament.

When he did not perform at the WJR's, all his apologist blamed it on coaching and the fact that he was the center of the team.

Now, at the WC, he was suppose to excel, without being the centerpiece, against weak teams/players and he had only 6 points in 9 games. The current excuse? He's "too young".

Too many posters keep claiming he is a generational talent. In fact, one American poster claims he is one of 4 "American generational talents" in the next 3 years - perhaps that posters needs to look up "generational talent" in the dictionary.

Look...

I know the kid is talented. I know he has all the tools. I know he won the Hanna Barbera Award as the top U.S. NCAA hockey player - for whatever that's worth. All I'm asking is for the American posters to tune down their expectation. Just a bit. I mean, wouldn't it be nice, for once, to have a player exceed your expectation instead of having to deny, deny, deny and make excuses when he disappoints?

Just my 2 cents.

Canadians are such wonderful, pleasant people.

Until the puck drops, then they take over the title of "world's most arrogant country" from the USA. If only for a few hours.

KevyD, you're the kind of guy that makes Americans want to root for a Cold War enemy over their northernly neighbors. Hope Russia pulls a train on you in the final.

 

[Salavat Yulaev]

That was what we say "validol game".
Validol - is a drug used for sedation during hysteria and cardiac chest pain in ex-USSR countries

 

[Semin]

Crosby had 16 points in 9 games at 18

When Sidney played in this tourney at 18 he just came off his first pro year in the NHL. Jack is coming straight out of college and into this tournament.