GDT: May 14 • Quarterfinal • Finland vs. Czech Republic

[Jakk123]

OK let's imagine the referee was a super-trooper NHL ref who sees every single motion.
1. Kontiola's stick is held by Czech D-man
2. Ref rises his hand - dealyed penalty to Czech team
3. Kontiola hits Czech D-man to the face
4. Penalty to Finland whoever touches a puck
Result: NO GOAL IN ANY CASE

Exactly.

 

[IAM]

OK let's imagine the referee was a super-trooper NHL ref who sees every single motion.
1. Kontiola's stick is held by Czech D-man
2. Ref rises his hand - dealyed penalty to Czech team
3. Kontiola hits Czech D-man to the face
4. Penalty to Finland whoever touches a puck
Result: NO GOAL IN ANY CASE

LOL. You must be one of Putins trolls. And if it went like you said then why didn't Czech get no penalty

Can't understand why should we speculate on that when we know what happen and how it went.

 

[Jussi]

OK let's imagine the referee was a super-trooper NHL ref who sees every single motion.
1. Kontiola's stick is held by Czech D-man
2. Ref rises his hand - dealyed penalty to Czech team
3. Kontiola hits Czech D-man to the face
4. Penalty to Finland whoever touches a puck
Result: NO GOAL IN ANY CASE

It also wouldn't have resulted in a Czech powerplay...

 

[Salavat Yulaev]

LOL. You must be one of Putins trolls. And if it went like you said then why didn't Czech get no penalty

Can't understand why should we speculate on that when we know what happen and how it went.

Now I am a Putin's troll. End of story.

 

[Praha 1985]

I only have two Finnish friends and have only been once to Helsinki on business, so I don't know the country and its mentality at all. Is all the whining and whinging normal? Is that something you can expect from most Finnish fans when they don't like some calls made by referees? Goodness me, how irritating.

In terms of the actual calls, I think not giving the Finnish 'goal' is justifiable, but even if it wasn't - let's say, the refs made a mistake and the goal should have been given - are you not getting bored of banging on about it? We get it, you think the refs screwed up or were deliberately conspiring against Finland. We get the message, we understand your position. It won't get any clearer by repeating it endlessly.

Great game by Jagr last night, and I am very pleased that the amazing fans of the Czech team get to cheer for another two games. Unfortunately the second game will be for third place, I don't see how anyone will come close to beating Canada. You never know, but it is very unlikely.

Yes, they are known to be drunk most of the time and always very bitter. Seeing everything painted in black.

 

[Mogo]

Stop complaining about the refs. It's done. We were beaten by a better team

 

[Praha 1985]

Yes, they are known to be drunk most of the time and always very bitter. Seeing everything painted in black.

Yes, I agree. The play in their own zone and especially the goaltending is too weak, I fear. Canada has so much offensive power. Offensively Czechs are very good, but Pavelec and play in their own zone hasn´t been good at all.
Everytime Finland came ito Czech zone yesterday it felt as there can be a goal, and so much more difficult to defend against Canada.
But Pavelec has has some amazing matches for Winnipeg when he really becomes a wall. That is the only chance.

 

[Salavat Yulaev]

Seeing everything painted in black.

No ethnic slur. But there is evidence based scientific data that the suicide insidence is higher among Ughric-Finn people (Hungarians, Finns, Karelians, Mordvins, Udmurts etc) than in any other ethnic groups.

 

[Tulipunaruusu*]

Everytime Finland came ito Czech zone yesterday it felt as there can be a goal, and so much more difficult to defend against Canada.

I thought that only through Barkov's brilliance Finland could consistently create something which tells something about how the whole offensive play is being organized. Not that there were many other noteworthy individuals either in or out of the team but on 5vs5 play we could have gone all night long and yet Czech Republic would always win.

Head coach position hopefully will soon be available.

 

[matzz]

Stop complaining about the refs. It's done. We were beaten by a better team

AMEN....End of discussion !

 

[kooma 13]

Even tho referees made some bad calls ( both ways), better team won. in this whole tournament finland relied on one single line and that was barkovs line. Many would argue that kemppainen's line was good also but no, no it wasnt. Now i just have to root for russia.

 

[JJTT]

Even tho referees made some bad calls ( both ways), better team won. in this whole tournament finland relied on one single line and that was barkovs line. Many would argue that kemppainen's line was good also but no, no it wasnt. Now i just have to root for russia.

Kemppainen was good, but his line wasn't.

 

[Jussi]

Finnish refereeing legend Seppo Mäkelä didn't approve the calls either: http://www.iltalehti.fi/mmjaakiekko-2015/2015051519697285_bh.shtml

 

[FiLe]

Finnish refereeing legend Seppo Mäkelä didn't approve the calls either: http://www.iltalehti.fi/mmjaakiekko-2015/2015051519697285_bh.shtml

What he actually said was that while the calls were technically within the rules, they were against the nature of the game. Which, of course, just tells us that it's a highly subjective thing. So it's no surprise that people who root for the losing party pan them and those on the winning side see nothing wrong with 'em.

The truth is, we're definitely in the grey area here. Both sides are neither fully right or fully wrong.


In the end, there's really no reason to be dissatisfied with the numbers on the board. But one can't be fully content with the way they were achieved. But, alas, such is the game of hockey.

 

[Past Considerations]

I seriously doubt that. There are worse stuff going on around the net in the NHL playoffs and most of the time they don't even call those. And i watch a game or two every day (when there's games). These elimination games are equivalent to playoffs so extra aggression should be tolerable IMO. I can almost guarantee if this play was the other way around that goal counts.

I can only wish WCs had NHL refs, but I don't know if this "would NHL ref have called that?" is a good analogy especially if compared to an NHL playoff game because generally IIHF rules seem to increasingly force the game into a less physical form and that's the way it has always been.

 

[Tulipunaruusu*]

If the Finland 'goal' would have been replicated in the other end as Czech Republic's 'good' game winning goal guess what the headlines would have been in Finland... Everybody is selling their own truth and for some reason this referees versus Finland one sells in Finland. Had the referees not been Russians, maybe it would have sold little less...

 

[tade]

This game on czech television has watched around 2.7 million people and that's quite something when you consider population of Czech republic which is 10.5 million. I mean its not that surprising because we love hockey but these numbers are really wonderful.

These numbers are provided by ATO-MediaResearch.

 

[Mogo]

Everyone in Finland turns into a hockey expert once the WC's come along

What Mertaranta (finnish commentator) calls = the truth even tho he doesn't know half the time what's happening on the ice anymore

 

[cibtom]

Stop complaining about the refs. It's done. We were beaten by a better team

Refs probably bad... but it's problem of the IIHF. Bad decisions on both sides but still I think Czech team was slightly better. Good advise for Finland - more shooting, we had really terrible defence, you should have tried a little bit more...

 

[Ralgo]

Everyone in Finland turns into a hockey expert once the WC's come along

Dont worry about that. Once WCs starts, we have 9 million coaches in czech rep. Remaining 1,5 million isnt interested in hockey

 

[HandsOfHelminen]

No ethnic slur. But there is evidence based scientific data that the suicide insidence is higher among Ughric-Finn people (Hungarians, Finns, Karelians, Mordvins, Udmurts etc) than in any other ethnic groups.

In the last 250 years of finnish history, there has been either the swedes or the russians pulling us down. For 50 years of that perioid of time we have held our own. Guess its kind of hard to take anymore S**t.

 

[anfieldo]

No ethnic slur. But there is evidence based scientific data that the suicide insidence is higher among Ughric-Finn people (Hungarians, Finns, Karelians, Mordvins, Udmurts etc) than in any other ethnic groups.

I live Finnish lapland and here are lot of suicides but i think one reason is polar night and midnight sun these two thing really confused head. and of course Finnish people drinking too much.
Same problem is northen Norway too.

 

[Blasb]

why is it always that when finns are involved on hfboards/generally, the discussion usually ends up being about our history, the wars, +other non-hockey related stuff. Can we not try keep Hfboards clean from this sort of nonsense in the future as I think it would mostly work in our benefit?

 

[Lepardi]

I didn't follow the game, but Kontiola's gif is a clear penalty. That's not a body to body hit. Hands were too high, and contact was made with the area of neck and head of the Czech player. He didn't use his momentum, he deliberately used his hands to knock down the defenseman.

Have you ever heard of an infraction called "holding the stick"? Did you happen to see what the D-man was using his hands for? Kontiola had no chance of playing the puck there cause the D-man was grabbing his stick.

 

[Ajaton Azer]

Unfortunately I had to listen to this game on the radio, but I think team Finland played very well. This was one of the games that you can either win or lose, and this time we lost. Czech Jagr and his mates were playing very well, so I think they earned going to semifinals.