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GDT: May 12 • Latvia vs. France

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Urbanskog said:
Eh? I just mentioned that some Dinamo players declined the invitation.
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Which ones?

Austria is missing a number of players apart from Vanek or Grabner. And Vanek has been 'disqualified' from the team, so he wouldn't be there anyway, if he wasn't in the play-offs (actually, he isn't and he could've made the line-up just like Coyle did for the US, if they really wanted him or Grabner on the team).
 
It's about who from among those currently threatened by relegation deserves it. If from among France, Austria and Latvia it was the Latvians who showed the least interest to represent their country at the Worlds, well, they can give it a try next year in division B...
 
Faterson said:
It's about who from among those currently threatened by relegation deserves it. If from among France, Austria and Latvia it was the Latvians who showed the least interest to represent their country at the Worlds, well, they can give it a try next year in division B...
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There's no need to post things, if you don't know what you're talking about.
 
You're yourself the source of our comments. :facepalm: (I had no idea there had been refusals on Latvian side until you mentioned it.)
 
Faterson said:
You're yourself the source of our comments. :facepalm: (I had no idea there had been refusals on Latvian side until you mentioned it.)
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Which makes it absurd and ridiculous that you're arguing with me about it.

The distinct majority of the missing Latvian players are injured.
 
Namejs said:
Which ones?

Austria is missing a number of players apart from Vanek or Grabner. And Vanek has been 'disqualified' from the team, so he wouldn't be there anyway, if he wasn't in the play-offs (actually, he isn't and he could've made the line-up just like Coyle did for the US, if they really wanted him or Grabner on the team).
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Namejs said:
Can you list the refusals for all the teams or are you making it up as you go?
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France has zero refusals, Bellemare was injured and no one asked Bozon. Coyle was added to the US team because they will make the playoffs, I doubt they would have added him otherwise. Besides, the Austrian coach values chemistry and said that he'd make no player additions even if Grabner or Vanek suddenly became available. Nödl and Lange weren't invited so those are hardly refusals either. The latter is irrelevant anyway considering that Starkbaum is by far the number 1.

Latvia is missing many players like Bartulis and Kulda, are they all injured?
 
I like Latvia, but somehow I think they need to get relegated, maybe their national team needs a wake up call or something. Also its better for France and Austria to survive because IMO they both have more potential in their hockey program going forward, than Latvia...
 
Zero skill in our lower lines, all that posession just for the sake of it.
 
hahahaa said:
I like Latvia, but somehow I think they need to get relegated, maybe their national team needs a wake up call or something. Also its better for France and Austria to survive because IMO they both have more potential in their hockey program going forward, than Latvia...
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For the sake of fans and how much negative impact this loss will have on the sport, I say we deserve to stay. Majority of French don't even know that they have a team in the Elite.

But, yeah, our hockey quality has been declining. Now we're playing defensive against every team. I remember there were times, when we dominated teams like France, Austria etc.

We are so damn slow and unmotivated :facepalm:
 
Namejs said:
Which makes it absurd and ridiculous that you're arguing with me about it.

The distinct majority of the missing Latvian players are injured.
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If you only give us incomplete information, don't complain about the feedback you get. If you had said, "Too bad, many of the best Latvian players couldn't join the team due to injuries," I'm sure no one would have suggested Latvians deserved to go down. (For myself, I said earlier I don't wish to see any of these 3 teams go down, but someone has to. My prediction is France will be the unlucky ones.)
 
Namejs said:
Latvia has been a part of the Elite tier for 19 years in a row (only 7 other teams have been here longer) and that streak is on the line today. It's not unexpected by any means, as we've sent a borderline B team and arguably one of the worst line-ups in 2 decades, but still - it would be quite sad to see that streak end today.

In any case, I'm hoping that there will be a shakedown in the coaching staff after the tournament (a new GM would be great news as well), and that some players currently on vacation will change their attitude towards the WC in the years to come, because it's obvious now that we don't have the depth to just cruise through the tournament and hope to make the play-offs with most of our key players missing.

I mean, seriously, taking a detour and playing against teams like Japan or Korea would almost be more interesting than playing for the 12th or 13th spot again next year. On the other hand, if we could have our Olympic lineup in the World Champs every year instead of this ragtag team, I'm sure we wouldn't have went 6 years without making the play-offs in the first place. It's quite possible we would be thinking about how likely it is to make a quarter-final upset against the US or something, instead of legitimately considering playing ****ing Poland next year. :shakehead
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So many excuses. Belarus is missing at least 10 top players and looks forward to the game vs. Crosby & Co. next Thursday. That's you problem you don't have any depth in Latvia.
 
kabidjan18 said:
Austria's is too. The president is like 75 and like filled main coaching positions with...his son...who is honestly not the best candidate. The GM is an old Finnish guy who I don't want to get started on. Part of me wants them to get relegated to cause a shakeup but part of me doesn't because I doubt the expectations are high enough.

Bring back Ted Nolan?
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I don't think it will change anything. Ted Nolan is not LHF (federation).

But the difference is that Austrians, despite apparently corrupt hockey system, have more talented players and apparently are much more patriotic.
 
Roussel has to shut the hell up and start playing. It would suck to see France go down. I do not think they deserve it. I am less impressed by how Germany played so far, for example.
 
Jon Riley said:
Roussel has to shut the hell up and start playing. It would suck to see France go down. I do not think they deserve it. I am less impressed by how Germany played so far, for example.
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Same for Asutria + Latvia.
France should lead the game by 2 goals at least right now :laugh:

But I do agree with you on Roussel.
 
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