Matvei Michkov vs. Ivan Demidov; who will be better?

[NyQuil]

Yeah you said that already, that’s not what I asked though

When did I say that already?

Apparently he's better at 5v5 production and takeaways.

You don't see /60 used this often which I find amusing because you don't see the kind of linear increase in production that it implies.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

When did I say that already?

You made it clear in your first post that you didn’t like that stat which I why I asked which stat should be used

 

[Positive Vibes]

Michkov has looked really good and will no doubt be a Star, With that being said i think Demidov will be just as good as him but only time will tell in the future whos better than who.

 

[Sasso09]

15 points in 19 khl games for Demidov. Limited ice time in a number of games.

Tied 3rd for points on his khl club.

15 points in 10 games vs trash sub .500 teams

0 points in 9 games vs teams .500 or better

He stat pads, has 8 points in two games in blowout games vs the worst teams in the league.

Michkov was far better in his D1, not close.

 

[Sasso09]

The facts are he is currently on pace to out produce Michkov’s best KHL season and has been SKA’s best player but ok

The facts are that he's not, even after that inflated 4 point game. Demidov is nowhere near best forward let alone best player in SKA either

The clear top 4 players
Nikishin
DeAngelo
Gritsyuk
Zavragin

Tnen you have Kuznetsov and Zykov just as good. You fail to realize, defense matters.


15 points in 19 games is 0.78 ppg

Unlike Demidov who plays with 7 1st round nhl players, Michkov played on a team with junk, no drafted players and put up 41 in 47, which is 0.87 PPG

I'll help you out a little. 0.87 > 0.78

Also, another friendly tip: The big yellow one is the sun

 

[Sasha Orlov]

The facts are that he's not, even after that inflated 4 point game.

15 points in 19 games is 0.78 ppg

Unlike Demidov who plays with 7 1st round nhl players, Michkov played on a team with junk, no drafted players and put up 41 in 47, which is 0.87 PPG

I'll help you out a little. 0.87 > 0.78

Also, another friendly tip: The big yellow one is the sun

Maybe don’t wait a month to respond to a post?

Demidov is playing under 10 mins a game on the 4th line, Michkov played 1st line minutes with full PP usage as well

It’s very transparent that you are so obsessed with disparaging Demidov because your team didn’t draft him and it was a mistake, everybody knows it too

 

[NikolaTesla]

The facts are that he's not, even after that inflated 4 point game. Demidov is nowhere near best forward let alone best player in SKA either

The clear top 4 players
Nikishin
DeAngelo
Gritsyuk
Zavragin

Tnen you have Kuznetsov and Zykov just as good. You fail to realize, defense matters.


15 points in 19 games is 0.78 ppg

Unlike Demidov who plays with 7 1st round nhl players, Michkov played on a team with junk, no drafted players and put up 41 in 47, which is 0.87 PPG

I'll help you out a little. 0.87 > 0.78

Also, another friendly tip: The big yellow one is the sun

Thats a lot of bullshit spat without any context.

Heres a more meaningful stats when considering his coach is punishing him with little ice time.

Demidov has more than twice the points/60 than the current top khl scorer. And thats with almost zero pp time. Those numbers are more impressive than what Michkov did in his d+1.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Keep in mind with Michkov that he’s more of a goal scorer than playmaker. Demidov is pretty equally good at both. It’d be like looking at the points category for Matthews in trying to compare him to Draisaitl instead of the goals category, and wondering why he doesn’t have as many points.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Maybe don’t wait a month to respond to a post?

Demidov is playing under 10 mins a game on the 4th line, Michkov played 1st line minutes with full PP usage as well

It’s very transparent that you are so obsessed with disparaging Demidov because your team didn’t draft him and it was a mistake, everybody knows it too

https://x.com/i/web/status/1849884099349184762

 

[majormajor]

5v5 Demidov. PP Michkov.

So far these guys aren't doing a lot to change my opinion on the matter.

 

[Fatass]

Michkov is clearly a generational talent and nhl superstar. The other guy has yet to play here. He looks good though.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Michkov is clearly a generational talent and nhl superstar. The other guy has yet to play here. He looks good though.

Idk about generational, we'll see. But this remains and always will remain Michkov, in an absolute landslide as the voting suggests.

 

[NikolaTesla]

Idk about generational, we'll see. But this remains and always will remain Michkov, in an absolute landslide as the voting suggests.

A repoll would look different. Pretty sure it'd be close to 50/50. Maybe a bit more for Michkov because he is playing in the nhl. But in their d+1, Demidov is clearly doing better.

 

[Baksfamous112]

15 points in 10 games vs trash sub .500 teams

0 points in 9 games vs teams .500 or better

He stat pads, has 8 points in two games in blowout games vs the worst teams in the league.

Michkov was far better in his D1, not close.

Michkov has yet to register a single point at even strength so far this year. He also registered most of his points last year on the PP (which Demidov doesn’t have) and against bottom feeders too.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

A repoll would look different. Pretty sure it'd be close to 50/50. Maybe a bit more for Michkov because he is playing in the nhl. But in their d+1, Demidov is clearly doing better.

The only people who are spam voting Demidov are homer Habs fans. Demidov is not equal to Michkov, just because you have a big fan base. No one in their right mind takes him over Michkov.

 

[NikolaTesla]

The only people who are spam voting Demidov are homer Habs fans. Demidov is not equal to Michkov, just because you have a big fan base. No one in their right mind takes him over Michkov.

Any evidences on this? I mean you've been saying it for a year and you kept saying that the proof was that Michkov had better numbers in his D and D-1. But now that Demidov is doing better in his D+1, your own logic should tell that Demidov is better, right?

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Michkov is a point per game at the NHL level.

He is also leading his team in points by a large margin.

Michkov is pulling away at this point. Nothing against Demidov I’m sure he will be an nhl player one day.


How? Show me what you mean. Michkov is the best player the flyers have drafted since lindros probably.

It was always Michkov > Demidov, every sane person knows that, it's just specific set of fans that delude their thinking out of desperation.

 

[NikolaTesla]

It was always Michkov > Demidov, every sane person knows that, it's just specific set of fans that delude their thinking out of desperation.

Except for their D+1