Very few did. Ovechkin also did it. Even a 60 points season would be a huge accomplishment for a 19 years old. Again, not many can say they had 60+ points season before they turn 20
Matvei Michkov vs. Ivan Demidov; who will be better?
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TheKrebsCycle
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Closest one we’ve seen is Bedard last year and Kaprisov (but he was 23). Makar was the closest D as well
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I don’t think Michkov will go ppg his rookie year, but also I wouldn’t be completely flabbergasted if he did. I think the Vegas over/under or whatever is at like 48 points, I’d be shocked if he doesn’t eclipse that, he’ll be on PP1 and play with some decent players, health will be a factor, but he’s built like a fire hydrant we’ll see. Most of my confidence not only comes from his talent level but just that he’s been playing against grown men for years, the adjustment is going to be a bit quicker for him vice other high level talents coming out of juniors making the jump right to the NHL. I’m very curious to see this Calder race with Celebrini.
TheKrebsCycle
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Agreed . The Sharks are starting to accumulate a wealth of talent . Smith and Celebrini down the middle could be Studly .
Pantokrator
Who's the clown?
My logic is that I am a Flyers fan. I have been one since the early 80s. The Flyers have bad things happen to them or they just do dumb things. This is how it works for them. Claude Giroux is the outlier. he was able to achieve in spite of the Flyers curse. I have long lists of issues with the Flyers if you would like me to list my 40-plus year grievances.
The Flyers are notoriously bad at developing prospects. Typically the prospects are worse than advertised or at best become what they were supposed to. Maybe you could argue that Konecny is better than he was suppsoed to be, but he is basically as good as his upside was advertised. For a team that had the number 1 ranked prospect pool by THN a few years ago, this team has sure underachieved.
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I get it, and I don't question your experience and frustration with the Flyers and their development issues. My quarrel is that Michkov is so good how do you mess him up? The guy is simply one of the best prospects that I've watched outside the generational guys, I just think he hits irregardless of anything the Flyers do, I think the right question is now is will they surround him with the right pieces. I'm praying Briere can figure it out, but it's unlikely since the teams front office is a bunch of dinosaurs.
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Pantokrator
Who's the clown?
I just anticipate issues - for example, let's say Michkov gets 40 points in his first season. The Flyers fans are expecting this guy to get like 80, which is unreasonable. The next year he gets 60, and then maybe 70. The Flyer fans are expecting him to be at least a ppg player. At this point Flyer fans get angry with the lack of point production and begin to boo him, which is something Flyers fans do. He doesn't like the treatment and refuses to sign a new contract and demands a trade.
Or, he ends up having injury issues which the Flyers have had to deal with. A short list includes Lindbergh who died in a car crash after winning the Vezina, and then the likes of Lindros, Primeau, and Pronger, who all had to retire because of concussions, and then Nolan Patrick having migraines.
The basic mantra at this point is that something is bound to happen to mess this up.
A few weeks ago I would have said Michkov…but Demidov is blowing my mind with what he’s doing in the KHL…a danger every shift, what a player.
This could very well be Makin/Ovechkin 2.0 and I’m not even kidding.
This could very well be Makin/Ovechkin 2.0 and I’m not even kidding.
The Gr8 Dane
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Now imagine if they were both 6"3 monsters like those two freaks. Game has changed so it doesn't matter much but man we were lucky to get Geno and Ovi at the same time in the same decade
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Well this didn't turn out like you thought.
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I haven't missed a SKA game.
Demidov has looked very mid outside of one game vs a brutal team.. he's been putrid defensively, a giveaway machine and scored 2 points in 7 games with 15 MIN ATOI without the Sochi game.
Michkov on the other hand is DOMINATING NHL competition.
2G 3A 5P in 3 games played
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You’re so full of shit it’s actually crazy lmao
The Gr8 Dane
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In reality
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Just stating facts.
Give me his stat line without the Sochi game, it's exactly what I said it is.
He has 9 giveaways in those 7 games as well, that's brutal
The facts hurt your feelings, that isn't my problem. He's going to need time adjusting to a real league after playing very low level MHL
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The fact is you don’t actually watch games and it’s very obvious
Which teams is he allowed to score against for it to count btw? Can we get your list now so we can know whether he sucks or not?
Give me his stat line without Sochi game please, go.DudeIts actually hilarious
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You're mad that I'm stating facts and your only rebuttal is that I'm not watching the games? I literally have a breakdown of every shift of every SKA game on my Twitter you nerd.
Be mad at the facts, not me.
He can score on whatever team he want, he's been very mid outside of one game.
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