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Injury Report: Matthews - Update 11/30 -- Off IR and back

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BallardEra said:
Sounds like he will miss the next two games for sure.
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Sounds like it, and I'm ok with that. Clearly he wasn't playing to the level we've expected from him, so hopefully he is 100% when he comes back. I've liked what I've seen in his absence, and hopefully with him back, we just raise to another level.
 
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Matthews is made of porcelain.

They should trade him. All he does is score goals. At least Ovechkin throws the body.

And boy oh boy does Ovechkin ever have a lot of body to throw.
 
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TMLBlueandWhite said:
Matthews is made of porcelain.

They should trade him. All he does is score goals. At least Ovechkin throws the body.

And boy oh boy does Ovechkin ever have a lot of body to throw.
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So are you saying Ovi and Crosby in and Matthews and Marner out (we get 1sts etc as well? )

Team Nylander?
 
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No rush to get captain matthew$ back.. team is playing great right now without him and he wasn’t doing much.

Hopefully he can get healthy and try to earn some of that dough.
 
When Matthews was struggling with quality of play I thought they might load manage him for a couple of weeks, and that coincided perfectly with this injury, whatever it is.

Without real details you just get a vague information vacuum that opens the player up to speculation and I don’t think it protects them, because the public weighs it against the injuries that are actually reported with the concrete timelines, recoveries etc.

So if it were to guess they’re just giving him 2 weeks off to get his head right, conditioning up, if he’s banged up with some bumps and bruises a little he can heal.
 
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Stephen said:
When Matthews was struggling with quality of play I thought they might load manage him for a couple of weeks, and that coincided perfectly with this injury, whatever it is.

Without real details you just get a vague information vacuum that opens the player up to speculation and I don’t think it protects them, because the public weighs it against the injuries that are actually reported with the concrete timelines, recoveries etc.

So if it were to guess they’re just giving him 2 weeks off to get his head right, conditioning up, if he’s banged up with some bumps and bruises a little he can heal.
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From game 1 it was obvious that something was wrong with him.
Shot did not have the usual snap.
Bobbling pucks,'
Losing board battles.
Things that never happen when he's healthy,

He is battling an injury.. period.
What it is? Who knows.
Team says not wrist.
So pick one of.....back, shoulder, concussion.
 
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Stephen said:
So if it were to guess they’re just giving him 2 weeks off to get his head right, conditioning up, if he’s banged up with some bumps and bruises a little he can heal.
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Berube said he's been dealing with this since training camp. Kyper said it's not the wrist or the shoulder.

If I had to guess, I'd go with a bad back.
 
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Maple Leafs head coach Craig Berube was asked if Matthews has experienced any setbacks in his recovery from an upper-body injury that has shelved him since last week.

"No, not really. It's just not getting to where it needs to get to," Berube said after Toronto's morning skate. "So we're just trying to manage it, you know. Just trying to make sure when it comes back, he's good and 100 percent."

 
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BallardEra said:
Maple Leafs head coach Craig Berube was asked if Matthews has experienced any setbacks in his recovery from an upper-body injury that has shelved him since last week.

"No, not really. It's just not getting to where it needs to get to," Berube said after Toronto's morning skate. "So we're just trying to manage it, you know. Just trying to make sure when it comes back, he's good and 100 percent."

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I don't like this. Seems like he is not getting better as fast as they think he should. Something is not right here. I just wonder WTF is wrong?
 
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Stephen said:
When Matthews was struggling with quality of play I thought they might load manage him for a couple of weeks, and that coincided perfectly with this injury, whatever it is.

Without real details you just get a vague information vacuum that opens the player up to speculation and I don’t think it protects them, because the public weighs it against the injuries that are actually reported with the concrete timelines, recoveries etc.

So if it were to guess they’re just giving him 2 weeks off to get his head right, conditioning up, if he’s banged up with some bumps and bruises a little he can heal.
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What in the white Oakley uncle tinfoil hat is this BS?!
 
Stephen said:
When Matthews was struggling with quality of play I thought they might load manage him for a couple of weeks, and that coincided perfectly with this injury, whatever it is.

Without real details you just get a vague information vacuum that opens the player up to speculation and I don’t think it protects them, because the public weighs it against the injuries that are actually reported with the concrete timelines, recoveries etc.

So if it were to guess they’re just giving him 2 weeks off to get his head right, conditioning up, if he’s banged up with some bumps and bruises a little he can heal.
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I didn’t think they’d give him two weeks, much less a run that includes the Bruins, Wings, Habs, and Sens, but here they are.

I love this guy, but he just does not have that dawg in him. I circle my calendar for beer league games against rivals. Even if we’re just a couple of knuckleheads with this load management speculation and he is dealing with something that’s actually nagging him, these are the games he’s missing!? Our rivals are all ass, this is the opportunity to bury them with some legendary big goals, then convalesce when the games don’t matter. We’ve got one game against Vegas all of next week, how they’re managing this is just… ugh.
 
Stephen said:
When Matthews was struggling with quality of play I thought they might load manage him for a couple of weeks, and that coincided perfectly with this injury, whatever it is.

Without real details you just get a vague information vacuum that opens the player up to speculation and I don’t think it protects them, because the public weighs it against the injuries that are actually reported with the concrete timelines, recoveries etc.

So if it were to guess they’re just giving him 2 weeks off to get his head right, conditioning up, if he’s banged up with some bumps and bruises a little he can heal.
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Though what does the team actually gain from disclosing injury details other than potentially giving the next opposition a more specific target on the players body?

I get the frustration as a fan, which I share,.but ultimately don't see anything wrong with the quite approach to injuries
 
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Menzinger said:
Though what does the team actually gain from disclosing injury details other than potentially giving the next opposition a more specific target on the players body?

I get the frustration as a fan, which I share,.but ultimately don't see anything wrong with the quite approach to injuries
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Well here’s the thing. NHL superstars get injured and people generally know exactly what’s wrong with them. Connor McDavid knee injury in 2020. Ankle injury in 2024. Nikita Kucherov. Hip injury, 2021. This is just disclosure of information, people know what’s wrong with them, there’s a timeline and fair enough get healthy and come back when you’re ready.

Non specific day to day injuries that spill into week to week with planned return dates and vague statements just makes me think it’s an injury with a bit of load management mixed in.

Also, the shadow of last year’s first round hangs over Matthews. What exactly was wrong with him, and it’s a good thing the team battled back to erase that bench scene in Game 4 and when he didn’t come out again for the third. You weigh that absence vs what another guy would play through and the information vacuum works against the player.
 
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Leafs dont disclose injuries but anyone doing some research can put 2 and 2 together. In 2015, Matthews missed 14 games in the swiss league, just after his 18th birthday with a back injury. Back injuries linger, does anyone here recall the hit he took from an Islanders player in his 2nd year i think? The sudden disappearance in the playoffs, etc. Matthews from my stance, has lingering back issues, when u have that your whole body shuts down, skating and taking his level of wrist shots would cause major pain. I thought he looked out of shape this year but that doesnt appear to be the case.
 
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mapleleaf979 said:
Leafs dont disclose injuries but anyone doing some research can put 2 and 2 together. In 2015, Matthews missed 14 games in the swiss league, just after his 18th birthday with a back injury. Back injuries linger, does anyone here recall the hit he took from an Islanders player in his 2nd year i think? The sudden disappearance in the playoffs, etc. Matthews from my stance, has lingering back issues, when u have that your whole body shuts down, skating and taking his level of wrist shots would cause major pain. I thought he looked out of shape this year but that doesnt appear to be the case.
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I’ve been saying it’s his back too.
 
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It’s either r back or groin.
I remember a few games back he stepped on a stick and his leg went with the stick…..looked painful.
 
Is there any thought to him not playing the rest of the month? There are only 5 games left this month and they have played 5 without him. Seems like a good idea right now.
 
RayzorIsDull said:
Is there any thought to him not playing the rest of the month? There are only 5 games left this month and they have played 5 without him. Seems like a good idea right now.
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Id assume it depends on health. No point keeping him out of the lineup if he's healthy
 
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