Injury Report: Matthews - Update 11/30 -- Off IR and back

[usernamezrhardtodo]

I'm not sure why people are surprised that he's in Germany. Why would the rich guy who constantly flies not hop on a plane to see his specialist?


No, it seems to be the Matthews injury information thread.

It's not a "homemade PR campaign" to point out that you're victim blaming the injured player based on random speculation that you have no evidence of. You are not entitled to medical information, and what some people don't seem to realize is that medical timelines and rates of healing are not perfect or exact. Want to know if an injury is worse than a team lets on/knows at the time? Wait and see. Quite frankly, fans overlook it because they get something they want, but transparency is strategically disadvantageous.

You must be fun at parties...

 

[ULF_55]

If the team isn't saying anything, then it's either out of respect to Matthews, or to prevent a strategically poor disclosure. There's no reason that you have to know.

True, fans don't need to know the issue that had him in Germany.

There is a reason he went to Germany.

It isn't nothing.

 

[Dekes For Days]

True, fans don't need to know the issue that had him in Germany.
There is a reason he went to Germany.
It isn't nothing.

Fans actually do know the reason he went to Germany. Because his specialist is there.
And seeing his specialist in the week off as he heals from the injury is largely nothing.

 

[Jmo89]

They're obviously waiting until the perfect time for him to have surgery so he can return game 1 of the playoffs and they'll have 13M in cap space to work with.

 

[Stephen]

I'm not sure why people are surprised that he's in Germany. Why would the rich guy who constantly flies not hop on a plane to see his specialist?


No, it seems to be the Matthews injury information thread.

It's not a "homemade PR campaign" to point out that you're victim blaming the injured player based on random speculation that you have no evidence of. You are not entitled to medical information, and what some people don't seem to realize is that medical timelines and rates of healing are not perfect or exact. Want to know if an injury is worse than a team lets on/knows at the time? Wait and see. Quite frankly, fans overlook it because they get something they want, but transparency is strategically disadvantageous.

Dekes, your home made HR campaign makes no sense because you are also not privy to the severity of this case, you don’t know why information is being withheld from you and why the facts can’t be transparently communicated to the public to protect the parties involved.

So maybe it’s a rich healthy guy going to Germany on a whim. Chances are it’s not.

 

[ULF_55]

Fans actually do know the reason he went to Germany. Because his specialist is there.
And seeing his specialist in the week off as he heals from the injury is largely nothing.

"largely nothing."

Actually, for a "largely nothing" there is video, electronic charts, ...

18 hours of flying time was for a reason.

 

[Stephen]

Fans actually do know the reason he went to Germany. Because his specialist is there.
And seeing his specialist in the week off as he heals from the injury is largely nothing.

What kind of specialist Dekes? Kinda makes a big difference what the issue is, doesn’t it?

 

[Larcos_Unal]

Nobody wants to see 34 hurt or ineffective, but this is a case where not going for the 8 year extension could backfire for the player and his agent.

 

[Confucius]

Germany? His specialist lives in Germany? When did Auston 1st meet the guy, when he was playing in the Swiss league? Talk about a lingering injury.

 

[WillyC]

Auston had a back issue when he played in Europe before he came to the NHL.

It’s likely the same back injury.

 

[Stephen]

what kind of injury could be made better by literally flying to Germany.
Thats what 8 hrs in a plane? Klingberg career ended on a flight to Sweden.

Bad back (even on a private jet), not sure how comfortable that is.

 

[supermann_98]

habs fans are gloating over Matthews injury. Well, that is the new level of low unlocked.

Edmonton fans were gloating about Holloway and Broberg injuries, one guy hoping Broberg's knee is f*cked, even more despicable.

Hab fans are just hoping Caufield scores more goals this year than Matthews, that's their Stanley Cup this year

 

[Canadian Finn]

I think there is some confusion...

instead of Germany, maybe he went to Turkiye for hairline work

 

[Confucius]

Ticket sales? The place is sold out from here to eternity. The team doesn't need to worry about selling a single ticket.

How about the away games?

 

[Stephen]

But they didn't until the season was done. Because it's strategically disadvantageous. Draisaitl is also not a bigger star than Matthews, but that's besides the point.

Yeah. Different players are different, and have different preferences around their medical information. Different injuries are different, and require different precautions and secrecy, and there are different medical timelines and certainty in timelines. If the team isn't saying anything, then it's either out of respect to Matthews, or to prevent a strategically poor disclosure. There's no reason that you have to know.

Get serious. A pro sports team cannot afford to take a “get lost” approach to fan interest because the attention economy is bread and butter. That’s why they have to still drop media tidbits every day despite trying to guard their little state secret.

At the end of the day, if team doesn’t want fan interest now, don’t ask for it on a Saturday night when you’re playing the games or you have something you want to shill.

Hockey injuries are disclosed by everybody. This is the atypical case.

 

[freshwind]

PRP injections are quite common now.
my wife has had it done twice, once by an orthopaedist and it brought temporary relief.
second time was with a sports rehab specialist and that was at least 5 or 6 years ago and no issues since.
her issue was a joint problem, the elbow

 

[Dekes For Days]

Dekes, your home made HR campaign makes no sense because you are also not privy to the severity of this case, you don’t know why information is being withheld from you and why the facts can’t be transparently communicated to the public to protect the parties involved.

Get serious. A pro sports team cannot afford to take a “get lost” approach to fan interest because the attention economy is bread and butter. That’s why they have to still drop media tidbits every day despite trying to guard their little state secret. At the end of the day, if team doesn’t want fan interest now, don’t ask for it on a Saturday night when you’re playing the games or you have something you want to shill. Hockey injuries are disclosed by everybody. This is the atypical case.

"Get serious" yourself Stephen. You're victim blaming the injured player, spreading conspiracy theories out of nothing, and leading a homemade campaign against the team because they didn't go into detail about a player's injury information. No, injury details are not always disclosed by everybody. It is the choice of the team and player, and they have decided to keep some things private. Probably for good reason, especially considering the reaction to what they did release - which does actually include the severity. You are not entitled to specific details. If your interest in the team on Saturday night is based on whether they satisfy your injury information cravings, that's your choice, but I doubt that's a common position.

So maybe it’s a rich healthy guy going to Germany on a whim. Chances are it’s not.

Not a rich heathy guy going to Germany on a whim. A rich recently injured guy going to Germany to see his specialist.

What kind of specialist Dekes? Kinda makes a big difference what the issue is, doesn’t it?

No, it doesn't. He'll be back when he's back, and that currently looks to be next week.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Day to day, but hasn't skated in 3 weeks, and despite residing in a city with some of the best doctors & hospitals in the world, is 6000 km away.

Totally normal.

He skated last Sunday so this is day 9 since he's skated.

Still not great but not 3 weeks

 

[ULF_55]

He skated last Sunday so this is day 9 since he's skated.

Still not great but not 3 weeks

Maybe some confusion about time off and time effective.

Time effective goes back months.

 

[Dekes For Days]

"largely nothing."
Actually, for a "largely nothing" there is video, electronic charts, ...
18 hours of flying time was for a reason.

The reason was to see his specialist, that has worked on his recent injury before. That doesn't really say anything about the severity of his recent injury (which the team has said isn't severe). It really just says that multimillionaire professional athletes get great medical care.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Such a weird statement. No set backs but travelled to another continent to see a specialist?

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858920638485856694

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858921436720631972

If this happens I will be as shocked as anybody.

If it somehow happens great but don't count on Utah.

MAYBE the Florida games because the Panthers are 8 days away, Tampa is still 11 or 12 days away so MAYBE those games.

But Sunday against Utah? I would be pleasantly surprised but I doubt it VERY much.

Unless he's scheduled to come back tomorrow or Thursday and begins skating right away.

But that seems unlikely not impossible because no one is telling us shit but unlikely.

 

[Menzinger]

It's interesting - but like with many things, nobody here is remotely qualified to be a back seat sports doctor.

The fundamental problem here isn’t the injury. It’s a lack of transparency which breeds speculation and inconsistent damage control through various channels and erodes public trust.

Your homemade PR campaign and damage control is also based on nothing. The injury could be worse than they let on and you would never know.

But again, what does the team actually gain from being transparent here? Other than broadcast a potential target on part of Matthews body?

 

[ULF_55]

The reason was to see his specialist, that has worked on his recent injury before. That doesn't really say anything about the severity of his recent injury (which the team has said isn't severe). It really just says that multimillionaire professional athletes get great medical care.

None of that is news, new, or a revelation.

Reports are he was there for treatment.

You don't fly 18 hours to review a chart. Chart/medical report reviews are done electronically all the time in health care. All the money in the world doesn't recover 18 hours of sitting on a plane, whether you are a billionaire or pauper time passes.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Reports are he was there for treatment.
You don't fly 18 hours to review a chart.

Of course he didn't go there to just look at a chart, but getting "treatment" doesn't mean a severe injury.

 

[TheDoldrums]

But again, what does the team actually gain from being transparent here? Other than broadcast a potential target on part of Matthews body?

To stop the endless speculation. The lack of transparency makes it a much bigger talking point. There would be less oxygen given to the story if the team just came out and said his back is messed up.

I more so blame the league though. Given how they have partnerships with gambling it’s pretty absurd how there aren’t more rules in place to force teams to provide info. Starting goaltending and injuries should have to be provided in the same way things work in the NFL.