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Injury Report: Matthews - Update 11/30 -- Off IR and back

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Stephen said:
In the complete absence of any transparency from the team all you can do is speculate. So if they’re leaking that it’s not the wrist or a shoulder, and people are guessing it’s a back issue, well here’s some reading for you Dr. Dekes.
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No, there's another option. You could... not speculate that the team's player injured himself playing some offseason tennis based on nothing. You are not owed any medical information from the team. Why are you calling me doctor? I'm not the one trying to backseat diagnose, Dr. Stephen. I trust that Matthews, and the team of doctors and specialists at his disposal, know more about Matthews, his injuries, and his limitations in the offseason than me or you or anybody else on the internet. I'm focused on the team we have available, hoping he gets better as soon as possible, and I personally think it's pretty irresponsible to spread random farfetched guesses at the cause.
 
Dekes For Days said:
No, there's another option. You could... not speculate that the team's player injured himself playing some offseason tennis based on nothing. You are not owed any medical information from the team. Why are you calling me doctor? I'm not the one trying to backseat diagnose, Dr. Stephen. I trust that Matthews, and the team of doctors and specialists at his disposal, know more about Matthews, his injuries, and his limitations in the offseason than me or you or anybody else on the internet. I'm focused on the team we have available, hoping he gets better as soon as possible, and I personally think it's pretty irresponsible to spread random farfetched guesses at the cause.
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I don't need full medical record releases but I also can't trust the team at all on this issue. They have a long history of letting players play through injuries in meaningless regular season games and then the trade deadline/playoffs roll around and whoops suddenly the lingering issue has flared up again. Either they have incompetent doctors or the players and coaches are ignoring their advice.
 
Dekes For Days said:
No, there's another option. You could... not speculate that the team's player injured himself playing some offseason tennis based on nothing. You are not owed any medical information from the team. Why are you calling me doctor? I'm not the one trying to backseat diagnose, Dr. Stephen. I trust that Matthews, and the team of doctors and specialists at his disposal, know more about Matthews, his injuries, and his limitations in the offseason than me or you or anybody else on the internet. I'm focused on the team we have available, hoping he gets better as soon as possible, and I personally think it's pretty irresponsible to spread random farfetched guesses at the cause.
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You’re on a discussion board in a topic about a mystery injury to a key player where people are literally speculating in the absence of information and nobody claims to possess real solid info. If you don’t want to participate you don’t have to…
 
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I'm glad he signed a 4 year deal cause when he hits UFA id be worried giving him a 8 year deal, his durability is now an issue especially given the physicality of the playoffs. Also he is trending closer to Embiid now.
 
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Cap'n Flavour said:
I don't need full medical record releases but I also can't trust the team at all on this issue. They have a long history of letting players play through injuries in meaningless regular season games and then the trade deadline/playoffs roll around and whoops suddenly the lingering issue has flared up again. Either they have incompetent doctors or the players and coaches are ignoring their advice.
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Or, injuries and flare ups happen when they happen, and it sucks, but it's not always on convenient timing. There's evidence of them being secretive in the past, so I get if people don't want to trust them or their public timelines, but there's no evidence of incompetence, and I don't think making up random conspiracy theories about offseason tennis with no evidence is helpful. He's back when he's back. We're even winning without him. We don't need the victim blaming stuff.
 
Reports say no concern and injury hasn't worsened....hmmmmm

Would you send a guy to Germany if things were progressing well and plans on playing Sunday?
 
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Dekes For Days said:
Or, injuries and flare ups happen when they happen, and it sucks, but it's not always on convenient timing. There's evidence of them being secretive in the past, so I get if people don't want to trust them or their public timelines, but there's no evidence of incompetence, and I don't think making up random conspiracy theories about offseason tennis with no evidence is helpful. He's back when he's back. We're even winning without him. We don't need the victim blaming stuff.
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The fundamental problem here isn’t the injury. It’s a lack of transparency which breeds speculation and inconsistent damage control through various channels and erodes public trust.

Your homemade PR campaign and damage control is also based on nothing. The injury could be worse than they let on and you would never know.
 
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what kind of injury could be made better by literally flying to Germany.
Thats what 8 hrs in a plane? Klingberg career ended on a flight to Sweden.
 
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This whole thing definitely took a turn I was the least bit expecting. Go see a specialist in the States beyond the Leafs' specialists? Yeah, understandable. Germany? Don't think anyone was predicting that.

Hopefully there is nothing more to it than we are speculating it may be. But totally natural at this point to believe the extent and severity is more than what has been let on.
 
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In all seriousness, presumably this relates to something that has happened in the past if he has seen this particular specialist before.
 
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By Germany they mean Turkey.
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Austin, when he returns from "surgery"

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I'm not sure why people are surprised that he's in Germany. Why would the rich guy who constantly flies not hop on a plane to see his specialist?

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It's kinda literally the f***ing topic of the thread there genius.
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No, it seems to be the Matthews injury information thread.
Stephen said:
The fundamental problem here isn’t the injury. It’s a lack of transparency which breeds speculation and inconsistent damage control through various channels and erodes public trust.
Your homemade PR campaign and damage control is also based on nothing. The injury could be worse than they let on and you would never know.
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It's not a "homemade PR campaign" to point out that you're victim blaming the injured player based on random speculation that you have no evidence of. You are not entitled to medical information, and what some people don't seem to realize is that medical timelines and rates of healing are not perfect or exact. Want to know if an injury is worse than a team lets on/knows at the time? Wait and see. Quite frankly, fans overlook it because they get something they want, but transparency is strategically disadvantageous.
 
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