Yeah, Jet's getting a bit hosed here. The difference between Matthews and Laine if there is even any is not Trouba.
Proposal: Matthews [TOR] for Laine + Trouba [WIN]
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Arizona tried (they stated as much). Toronto said they were not moving Matthews for anything. Thus, they failed.
There is definitely a difference between Laine and Matthews, and fairly decent sized one, but to your point, the add-in is no where near a player of Trouba's caliber
BayStreetBully
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If the Leafs wanted Laine, they'd have just drafted him at #1. They wanted the franchise #1 C instead.
No to anything Winnipeg gives up.
No to anything Winnipeg gives up.
LondonKendrick
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And yet Leafs passed on Trouba for Rielly and passed on Laine for Matthews, go figure.
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I would agree if this was a trade in a vacuum with team needs not considered. Problem is, the Leafs would be trading exactly what they need for something that, although very nice to have, is not exactly what they need.
Same for the Jets.
I don't speak for all jets fans but in my opinion:
1. I value Trouba a lot
I watched 78 jets games this past year and 5 leaf games. Out of those 5 leaf games I didn't like Riely in two games. In three I thought he played great. In the 78 jets games I can say that I liked Trouba game in the majority that he played. But I know to make a fair comparison I would need to watch lot more leaf games. So I won't pretend to say Trouba is better than Riely because I didn't see enough of Riely. So for now I'll keep it safe by saying I'd rather have Trouba.
2. Mathews vs Laine is ridiculous
I watched the same amount of games for each player I can honestly say I think Mathews is a higher valued player I don't think I would pay more than even if it was a Mathews/Laine swap. Other teams might value Mathews more but I don't feel we need a lot more depth at centre. If we didn't have shief and little I might take a look at the op's proposal. But the fact is I don't think we need to with our depth.
Bottom line for me is player value has everything to do with the whole team picture and not just how good that player is (or might be)
1. I value Trouba a lot
I watched 78 jets games this past year and 5 leaf games. Out of those 5 leaf games I didn't like Riely in two games. In three I thought he played great. In the 78 jets games I can say that I liked Trouba game in the majority that he played. But I know to make a fair comparison I would need to watch lot more leaf games. So I won't pretend to say Trouba is better than Riely because I didn't see enough of Riely. So for now I'll keep it safe by saying I'd rather have Trouba.
2. Mathews vs Laine is ridiculous
I watched the same amount of games for each player I can honestly say I think Mathews is a higher valued player I don't think I would pay more than even if it was a Mathews/Laine swap. Other teams might value Mathews more but I don't feel we need a lot more depth at centre. If we didn't have shief and little I might take a look at the op's proposal. But the fact is I don't think we need to with our depth.
Bottom line for me is player value has everything to do with the whole team picture and not just how good that player is (or might be)
No its not
Rielly is a stud offensive dman. Depending on your need you could argue Rielly>Trouba
Matthews over Laine 8 days a week
Make it:
Gardiner/Matthews
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Trouba/Laine
and THAT is close to fair value. Both Trouba and Gardiner are 2nd pair dmen, albeit different styles, but Trouba>Gardiner and Matthews > Laine but neither matchup is over the other in a huge margin. I think they weigh out pretty close to even
Jets4Life
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No chance Trouba gets over $6 million AAV. He will be lucky to receive $5.5 million
no you're totally right. One is a simulation and one is where we throw **** against the wall and hope it sticks, different stratospheres. We can't take NHL16 too seriously around hfboards of all places
winnipegger
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If Chevaldayoff offered this Toronto would be stupid not to accept. The difference between Matthews and Laine clearly isn't Trouba....
MardyBum
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I'll gladly take 6 a year if it's a 7 or 8 year deal. Proclaiming he's "holding out" when we signed Scheifele just over a week ago is a pathetic statement. Was Scheifele holding out? Is Monahan holding out? Is Gaudreau? Lindholm?
You know nothing.
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Proposal makes no sense and neither team does it. It doesn't even matter that in vacuum the value is off. But Leafs are not trading away potential franchise C for anything else than a better franchise C. Jets are not willing to trade their potential star winger and potential 1st pairing D.
This thread is just made to rustle up some jimmies. Cause the proposition makes no sense.
This thread is just made to rustle up some jimmies. Cause the proposition makes no sense.
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Jets4Life
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If Reilly is so much better than Trouba, why do people keep insisting Trouba will get over $6,000,000 AAV contract, when Reilly settled for $5.0 million?
lol.
I'm not sure who is the better player at this point, but judging by the way Laine played in the WHC, it's definitely close.
No thanks. Reilly/Matthews for Trouba/Laine would be a fair trade.
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