Proposal: Matthews [TOR] for Laine + Trouba [WIN]

[rt]

Anyone not bleeding Maple Leaf blue and white understands that Matthews does NOT hold that kind of value.

 

[JetsHomer]

Laine is better than Matthews

 

[DraberlyakMcHallkins*]

I'd take Trouba at 5, but now the Jets are taking on Michalek? Jeez, quit digging.

Do you really value Reinhart, Drai etc. as equal value to that of Laine?

it's hfboards, I swear if I go through your posts and one single idea is based in "what if?" land not "this GM has explicitly stated this" world then I will be shocked. I wouldn't say they are in different stratospheres, BUF/CGY/EDM could add if they think Laine will be as good as hf thinks

 

[McSuper]

TML should do this trade then Help Edmonton out and in doing so keep them away from those high picks .

Laine + Trouba for Matthews

Laine and Trouba to Edmonton for RNH , Nurse , 2017 1st , 2018 1st and one prospect not name Pulju , Bear or Laine

Joking of course . TML will keep their big 2 way C that will be a godsend to the team for many years . Just need your GM to get his head out of his ass and pay the kid his bonus

 

[kb]

Zaitsev probably. Or literally anyone else than having to pay Trouba 6+ million/year.

Do people just forget there is a cap?

Toronto has almost $4.8 million before they even put Horton's $5.3 million on LTIR. Over $10 million in cap space right now.

 

[heretik27]

Right, lol. Trouba is holding out this long to sign a sweetheart deal. He's made his intentions clear, besides 6+ was just a number. Doesn't matter if it's 5, 5.5 or 6.

And who is this "equal value C" the Leafs are trading Laine for? Someone making league minimum?

It doesn't work. At all.

Oh, so in other words you have no inside information. Sounds very credible, almost as credible as those who suggest Matthews wants out of Toronto because he hasn't signed his ELC yet.

 

[KidLine93]

So Toronto wants to trade the 1st center in a decade with Matthews potential for another high end winger when they have 2 already? Then move one of them to center and hope it works out. And if it doesn't work out maybe another Matthews calibre center comes their way in 10-15 years, if they're lucky.
It just wasn't a practical idea.

Funny. Before you guys won Matthews you guys were telling everyone Marner and Nylander were franchise centermen.

 

[MardyBum]

Right, lol. Trouba is holding out this long to sign a sweetheart deal. He's made his intentions clear, besides 6+ was just a number. Doesn't matter if it's 5, 5.5 or 6.

And who is this "equal value C" the Leafs are trading Laine for? Someone making league minimum?

It doesn't work. At all.

Yeah, an RFA with the ability to negotiate dollars and term not signed by July 18th = holdout. (Gaudreau, Monahan, Lindholm, etc etc etc).

A 1OA not signing a strict entry level contract with the only deviation being middling bonuses = no big deal guys, all the time in the world!

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

But Toews is a 1c and Matthews projects to be the same?

You are correct and I hear your point. But Chicago also had seabrook, kane, keith, hossa, hjalmarsson etc

Matthews is a nice comparison and player to Toews in a vacuum, but does TOR have all that comparable roster depth to round out a championship team?

Chicago doesnt win a championship without Toews, but Toews doesnt win any championships without guys like Kane, Keith, Seabrook, Hossa, Hjalmarsson, and hell, to a lesser extent Bickell (2013 version)

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Obv stupid proposal but to even the value out


Laine
Trouba

for

Rielly
Matthews

That is proper value

Leafs give the better forward and defenceman? Weird definition for proper value.

I'd become a Las Vegas fan if that happened.

As for the OP neither team does this.

 

[DTM]

Jets would get robbed.

 

[leaflover]

Funny. Before you guys won Matthews you guys were telling everyone Marner and Nylander were franchise centermen.

I'm one person. If your fanbase agrees unanimously on things that's wonderful.
I don't visit the Leafs board ever, whats said on their board is 100% a mystery to me.

 

[Big Easy]

Laine is better than Matthews

Maybe if he learns to play centre and works on his skating.

 

[Quiksilver*]

Yeah, an RFA with the ability to negotiate dollars and term not signed by July 18th = holdout. (Gaudreau, Monahan, Lindholm, etc etc etc).

A 1OA not signing a strict entry level contract with the only deviation being middling bonuses = no big deal guys, all the time in the world!

Please tell me what you think Trouba will sign for. Any "insider" has claimed the number to be astronomical.

Nobody is signing a sweetheart deal to stay in Winnipeg. Most of all, Trouba.

Care to make a wager? I'll take 6/year, you take 4. Closest wins.

 

[Big Easy]

Obv stupid proposal but to even the value out


Laine
Trouba

for

Rielly
Matthews

That is proper value

No its not. Leafs loose on both players as it stands.

 

[LondonKendrick]

You are correct and I hear your point. But Chicago also had seabrook, kane, keith, hossa, hjalmarsson etc

Matthews is a nice comparison and player to Toews in a vacuum, but does TOR have all that comparable roster depth to round out a championship team?

Chicago doesnt win a championship without Toews, but Toews doesnt win any championships without guys like Kane, Keith, Seabrook, Hossa, Hjalmarsson, and hell, to a lesser extent Bickell (2013 version)

Absolutely not, that's why I pray for Liljegren every night

 

[Quiksilver*]

I agree 100%, no way the Jets would consider it...BTW has Matthews signed in Toronto or is he still holding out?

He's currently hanging out with Trouba.

 

[gamer1035]

Nope.

 

[Quiksilver*]

it's hfboards, I swear if I go through your posts and one single idea is based in "what if?" land not "this GM has explicitly stated this" world then I will be shocked. I wouldn't say they are in different stratospheres, BUF/CGY/EDM could add if they think Laine will be as good as hf thinks

You're right, this is HFBoards, not NHL16.

 

[Mr Positive]

Toronto would win this trade in value, but should reject it in terms of building their team. They need that #1 center.

 

[Hally BlackWood]

Neither team does this....

 

[TheLeastOfTheBunch]

No thanks. If Toronto had a young #1C in place already, then it's certainly something to consider, but even then 2-way goal scoring centres like Auston don't exactly grow on trees.

Not so high on Trouba. There hasn't been much progression there

 

[kb]

Anyone not bleeding Maple Leaf blue and white understands that Matthews does NOT hold that kind of value.

He does to the Leafs. And that is all that matters. Elite franchise altering #1c's are the rarest of breeds, and the Leafs need that and would never, ever consider trading that for a winger....even with the Trouba addition. Makes zero sense for them. They can wait or try to draft a D this year if they get bottom 3 again.

And a huge LOL shoutout to those saying Laine is better. He may not even be the best Finn in the draft. The WJC MVP says hi. And if you add up the goals scored by Laine and Matthews in the WJC and World Championships, you will notice that Laine scored a grand total of (1) one more goal total than Matthews over those 2 tournaments, while playing on much stronger teams with far more support playing a much easier position.

 

[BlueBaron]

Um I think leafs take this one

Probably would be very tempted but I disagree, we really need a true number 1 C.

I think they do too but they would also need a separate trade to get a #1 centre to minimize any fan backlash.

That is a video game mindset.
If the Leafs could acquire Duchene this offseason as well, preferably back to back they would close the first trade FO SHUR

 

[Fairview]

If Toronto was really trying to move Matthews I think they would be better off approaching Arizona. He would have maximum value there. Maybe Arizona puts a package together including OEL ,Domi ?