Speculation: Matthew Tkachuk MEGA Thread (informs Flames he will not sign long term)

[Linkens Mastery]

I think it’s a game of who blinks first between St.Louis and NJ.
Flames want Kyrou or Bratt and neither team wants to do that right now.
I don’t know the Blues roster well enough to know if they would be better or worse overall if they trade Kyrou for Tkachuk . I’d imagine that Tarasenko would have to go due to the cap situation and would that not leave a big hole in their lineup with Kyrou and Tarasenko gone? Tank also has a NMC so it’s not going to be easy for St.Louis

For NJ and Bratt , I’m not sure that Tkachuk is that much of an upgrade to warrant payimg that much more $ on Tkachuk than Bratt.
Tkachuk fills a need better but not sure if it’s worth the price

It's also not just Tarasenko and Kyrou gone either. They just lost Perron, another 25+ goal scorer in Free Agency a couple weeks ago. They'd be going into next season with the same defensive core from last years playoffs but be subtracting Kyrou, Perron, and Tarasenko for 1 Tkachuk.

 

[Random Comment]

It'd definitely cost more than that to get the job done, I think.

Hintz + high pick and/or prospect, more likely

You are out of your mind. If Dallas offered Hintz, Calgary would sign that immediately. The return will be less.

 

[Eggtimer]

Added this to the OP

Hmmmm . What pieces do they have to offer and what’s their cap situation like ?
What’s the state tax there ?
I can definitely see Dallas on Tkachuks list .
Nice warm climate in a US city . Once Seguin and Benn are gone , he would probably be the main guy there ( and rumour has it he is interested in being that . Future Captain and the head honcho leading a good team
Checks a lot of boxes I’d imagine for Tkachuk . Just a matter of what they can offer Calgary

 

[super6646]

Not excited about the prospect of Dallas unless Hintz or Robertson comes back (which I sincerely doubt). What other prospect/top 6 fwd do they have?

 

[TK 421]

A reason to cheer for Dallas, go Dallas!

 

[Random Comment]

I hear Carolina is going hard for Tkachuk atm. Deal may get done today.

 

[GoodNewfieBoy]

I really don’t know what the Flames would want from Dallas. Between all the NMCs/NTCs, players they wouldn’t want to trade, etc, I don’t see a good partner there.

I can see Gurianov and Hankanpaa for cap purposes and then some mix of Bourque/Johnson/Harley/ Draft capital I guess?

 

[super6646]

I hear Carolina is going hard for Tkachuk atm. Deal may get done today.

Where?

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

I hear Carolina is going hard for Tkachuk atm. Deal may get done today.

Necas, Drury, and a 2nd?

 

[Dr Pepper]

So basically Strickland trying to drum up fake intrigue with that tweet, eh?

"What are [INSERT RANDOM TEAM] trying to do?"





Just to keep the discussion going I guess, maybe he was bored.

Nothing new developing, unless there's more intel he's not reporting.

 

[Random Comment]

Where?

Source on Twitter. They called Neidereiter signing w nashville 24 hrs before insiders reported it, called the Brent Burns return 1 hour before the insiders, and then Pacioretty deal 1 hour before insiders. Must work in the Carolina front office. It’s bizarre.

Person said Carolina is making a hard push. I added the deal could get done today.

 

[GoodNewfieBoy]

Necas, Drury, and a 2nd?

Does anyone check Capfriendly before coming up with trade proposals or nah

 

[super6646]

Source on Twitter. They called Neidereiter signing w nashville 24 hrs before insiders reported it, called the Brent Burns return 1 hour before the insiders, and then Pacioretty deal 1 hour before insiders. Must work in the Carolina front office. It’s bizarre.

Person said Carolina is making a hard push. I added the deal could get done today.

Can you link it by any chance?

 

[Random Comment]

Does anyone check Capfriendly before coming up with trade proposals or nah

I'm guessing it would be something along the lines of Necas, J Staal, and a protected 1st. Could swap Staal for Kotkaniemi, but that could be more difficult to do. Then they will need another centre next year. Staal @ 6 mil and Pactches at 7mil come off the books next year. They have the money to get Tkachuk on a long term 9+ mil deal.

edit: Staal has full NMC.

 

[GoodNewfieBoy]

I'm guessing it would be something along the lines of Necas, J Staal, and a protected 1st. Could swap Staal for Kotkaniemi, but that could be more difficult to do. Then they will need another centre next year. Staal @ 6 mil and Pactches at 7mil come off the books next year. They have the money to get Tkachuk on a long term 9+ mil deal.

edit: Staal has full NMC.

I’m trying to figure it out between Calgary and Carolina and I just can’t see it if yoh assume no one waives to go to Calgary. Have to get another team involved.

Like it could be Necas, KK, Fast, Gardiner, Rantaa for Tkachuk, Vladar but it seems so far fetched and Calgary would have to get rid of Lucic to make it happen and even then it’s tight.

Possibly something around Svechnikov but don’t know if Carolina is interested in that

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

Does anyone check Capfriendly before coming up with trade proposals or nah

Canes would have to move someone else out but that doesn't have to be part of the deal with Calgary.

 

[Random Comment]

I’m trying to figure it out between Calgary and Carolina and I just can’t see it if yoh assume no one waives to go to Calgary. Have to get another team involved.

Like it could be Necas, KK, Fast, Gardiner, Rantaa for Tkachuk, Vladar but it seems so far fetched and Calgary would have to get rid of Lucic to make it happen and even then it’s tight.

Possibly something around Svechnikov but don’t know if Carolina is interested in that

New guess is: Necas, Gardiner, Rantaa, 2023 1st, 2024 3rd.

Carolina may need to swap around more salary to fit Tkachuks 1st year.

 

[radioactivenuts]

New guess is: Necas, Gardiner, Rantaa, 2023 1st, 2024 3rd.

Carolina may need to swap around more salary to fit Tkachuks 1st year.

why on earth would calgary need Raanta

 

[HighLifeMan]

New guess is: Necas, Gardiner, Rantaa, 2023 1st, 2024 3rd.

Carolina may need to swap around more salary to fit Tkachuks 1st year.

That's a horrendous deal for Calgary.

 

[SvechneJerk]

Source on Twitter. They called Neidereiter signing w nashville 24 hrs before insiders reported it, called the Brent Burns return 1 hour before the insiders, and then Pacioretty deal 1 hour before insiders. Must work in the Carolina front office. It’s bizarre.

Person said Carolina is making a hard push. I added the deal could get done today.

Link??

 

[Bounces R Way]

Hintz, Johntson, and the 2023 1st

getter done Tre

 

[Zapp]

Hintz, Johntson, and the 2023 1st

getter done Tre

It's fun to dream big

 

[Random Comment]

That's a horrendous deal for Calgary.

I'm going to buzz kill you in advance. Calgary isn't getting a lot for Tkachuk. Not the deals people are throwing around.

 

[radioactivenuts]

It's fun to dream big

well at least we have some dreams left after this past week

 

[Eggtimer]

I'm going to buzz kill you in advance. Calgary isn't getting a lot for Tkachuk. Not the deals people are throwing around.

Maybe , maybe not , but that offer easily gets beat by NJ if NJ is on Tkachuks list where he would extend .