Player Discussion Matthew Savoie

[suddeninterest]

Figured this guy should have his own thread as he is now easily our best prospect. A look at scouting reports and sites project him as a top 6 point producer and comment on elite skating and great effort. Biggest downside is his size.

Wouldn't be surprised if he makes the opening night roster but probably should do some time in Bake and come up around the deadline/PO. Who do you guys see as comparable? A ceiling of Brayden Point and a floor of Viktor Arvidsson?

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[Hockeylife2018]

Tough spot to be in because we don't have space in our top 9, and I'm never a fan of bringing a skilled player up to play on the 4th line.

Gotta suck for the kid as he was likely a lock for nhl time in Buffalo, but likely won't see nhl time this year in edmonton and is likely seen as a replacement for skinner next season

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

He might be a trading piece to upgrade somewhere else or be a replacement for Skinner next year

 

[tiger_80]

I think he will start in the AHL, but will get a few games this year. Then it depends on how he fares.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

Unreal potential, the kid can flat out skate and has excellent hands. Question though, are we letting Carter walk?

 

[Soli]

Unreal potential, the kid can flat out skate and has excellent hands. Question though, are we letting Carter walk?

Yes, Carter wasn’t qualified with the rest of the RFAs.

 

[alphahelix]

Yes, Carter wasn’t qualified with the rest of the RFAs.

You’d think with Tullio gone and Matt in, they might figure out a minimal 2 way deal for Carter or something.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

You’d think with Tullio gone and Matt in, they might figure out a minimal 2 way deal for Carter or something.

Sedins may have skewed my views on brothers and the hope of chemistry and production, and not in anyway saying that they're anything like those players - but selfishly I'd love to see what would happen. Hoping we offer a contract, would love to follow that story next season in the AHL.

But to Matthew specifically, hoping he can put ~40 in his first full professional year here.

 

[McOilers97]

Tough spot to be in because we don't have space in our top 9, and I'm never a fan of bringing a skilled player up to play on the 4th line.

Gotta suck for the kid as he was likely a lock for nhl time in Buffalo, but likely won't see nhl time this year in edmonton and is likely seen as a replacement for skinner next season

If the only downside is being delayed by a year, then that’s not awful. As you said, he may well end up being a Jeff Skinner replacement in 2025-26 if he ends up being as good as we think he might be - seems worth the 1 year delay if you get to have absolutely elite linemates.

 

[Giggleplex]

You’d think with Tullio gone and Matt in, they might figure out a minimal 2 way deal for Carter or something.

Could see that happening. Condors barely have any natural left wingers right now.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Go to the Canucks forum and put "Savoie" in as a search. Messages for pages about how he's a bust. Get past these most recent posts, those after he's traded to Edmonton, and he's blue chip as they come. Central asset in suggested "major trades" to Vancouver.

Canuck fans have officially topped Flame fans in fanboyism. Don't get me wrong we still have fanboy complications of our own but these obstacles are on the decline.

When the fanboyism is eradicated the Oilers will win the Cup. Keep vigilant and stomp out fanboyism whenever possible wherever you see it.

I'll admit to a mistake of my own. I would have let McLeod walk instead of paying him 2.1M on a two year deal. I said as much before he was qualified. I wouldn't have qualified the player. I also said that. Well if we didn't sign McLeod we wouldn't have Savoie. I'll savour a mouthful of crow, lesson learned.

I'll wait and see what Savoie is about with my own eyes. Dismiss the urge to fanboy. Savoie will get his shot to impress as soon as training camp. Along with all the new acquisitions.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

 

[Coffey]

Imagine making the cup finals and then ending up with a top 10 prospect following the draft.

Feels good boys.

 

[Senor Catface]

Go to the Canucks forum and put "Savoie" in as a search. Messages for pages about how he's a bust. Get past these most recent posts, those after he's traded to Edmonton, and he's blue chip as they come. Central asset in suggested "major trades" to Vancouver.

Canuck fans have officially topped Flame fans in fanboyism. Don't get me wrong we still have fanboy complications of our own but these obstacles are on the decline.

When the fanboyism is eradicated the Oilers will win the Cup. Keep vigilant and stomp out fanboyism whenever possible wherever you see it.

I'll admit to a mistake of my own. I would have let McLeod walk instead of paying him 2.1M on a two year deal. I said as much before he was qualified. I wouldn't have qualified the player. I also said that. Well if we didn't sign McLeod we wouldn't have Savoie. I'll savour a mouthful of crow, lesson learned.

I'll wait and see what Savoie is about with my own eyes. Dismiss the urge to fanboy. Savoie will get his shot to impress as soon as training camp. Along with all the new acquisitions.

 

[PeteEakins]

A ceiling of Brayden Point and a floor of Viktor Arvidsson?

Neither of these are accurate. Savoie is a burner. His best comp - it’s not a very good comp - is Matt Barzal but a better goal scorer.

 

[oil Leaks]

You’d think with Tullio gone and Matt in, they might figure out a minimal 2 way deal for Carter or something.

Not an insider, but I can see the Condors offering Carter an AHL deal. There is zero chance he gets a 2 way deal from an NHL team

 

[Giggleplex]

Neither of these are accurate. Savoie is a burner. His best comp - it’s not a very good comp - is Matt Barzal but a better goal scorer.

I'd say Logan Stankoven is his closest comparable. Hopefully he'll follow a similar path for us this coming season.

 

[McMoMoney29]

The way he finds open ice and takes it is impressive, I think we have a future top line winger on our hands

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Even if he become a more productive Yamamoto, this was a huge win for a cap dump

 

[Coffey]

Go to the Canucks forum and put "Savoie" in as a search. Messages for pages about how he's a bust. Get past these most recent posts, those after he's traded to Edmonton, and he's blue chip as they come. Central asset in suggested "major trades" to Vancouver.

At least not all of them are delusional

(Not saying we are winning the cup, but at least some aren't so blinded by idiocy)

 

[Broberg Speed]

At least not all of them are delusional

(Not saying we are winning the cup, but at least some aren't so blinded by idiocy)

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likely someone's burner account... or a Canuck fan not living in Vancouver

 

[Coffey]

likely someone's burner account... or a Canuck fan not living in Vancouver

haha That dude has been on the forums for a long time. He's more chill than others.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Not an insider, but I can see the Condors offering Carter an AHL deal. There is zero chance he gets a 2 way deal from an NHL team

They didn’t qualify him because they have a logjam on the wings. One reason they moved Tullio was to make room for MS. His brother they’ve moved on from and he will probably get an AHL deal from another team or perhaps ply his trade in Europe.

 

[Broberg Speed]

haha That dude has been on the forums for a long time. He's more chill than others.

a good baseline to check, does he endorses cross checking McDavid in the throat ?

if the answer is yes they have the left coast brain virus

 

[Ninety7]

Canucks fans are hilarious.

They are in pure denial mode.