Player Discussion Matt Rempe - See Mod Note Post 769

[bhamill]

I laugh at the narrative that he’s afraid to fight Wilson.

As if he hasn’t already taken on the 3 top heavy weights in the league already.

I still don’t even think Wilson would have actually dropped his gloves. You know how many times Wilson has fought Reaves? 0. Deslauriers? 0 MacDermid? 0 Olivier? 0. The only guy he’s fought in the last 5 years that is kind of an actual heavyweight is Jarred Tinordi… who beat him. I remember him fighting Chara once and Johnston once, years back. Neither gave him the option, both beat him. Wilson is just barely above the Trouba/Goodrow level as a fighter and isnt someone who likes to punch up. Only down.
Rempe has zero to fear from Wilson as far as a fight. Now psycho dirty shit? No one is safe from that.

Rempe is going to look like him in his 50s/60s. He should just embrace the jaws next season.

Actually Roobroeck really does resemble this guy already.

 

[bhamill]

He had a fine series but, provided Chytil is ready, it's time to take him out of the lineup for the series against Carolina. Can't risk the penalties against them and have a guy in the lineup who has zero special teams role that gets benched in the third period when the game is close.

This wouldn’t upset me. Neither would leaving him in… and taking out someone else. Guess we will see what happens. Maybe start him in the series and see how it goes. If he can take a pound of flesh (wear and tear wise) out of their D corps for the first couple of games that’s an advantage going forward.

 

[LeetchisGod]

I don't trust Rempe defensively against the Canes.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I don't trust Rempe defensively against the Canes.

Its hard for a coach to make changes in the playoffs coming off 4 straight wins but I think there may come a time that Chytil gets in the next series. It is not automatic that Rempe would come out though. There are 1-3 guys that might come out before Rempe. I would not mind giving Zac Jones a chance if we have trouble with another teams speed as well.

 

[LeetchisGod]

Its hard for a coach to make changes in the playoffs coming off 4 straight wins but I think there may come a time that Chytil gets in the next series. It is not automatic that Rempe would come out though. There are 1-3 guys that might come out before Rempe. I would not mind giving Zac Jones a chance if we have trouble with another teams speed as well.

I would like to see Jones as well. He was generating offense 5 on 5.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I would like to see Jones as well. He was generating offense 5 on 5.

I like having his skating ability on that back line. He really did take a step up this season. I was pleased by that because I was not sure he was strong enough last season.

 

[SA16]

Its hard for a coach to make changes in the playoffs coming off 4 straight wins but I think there may come a time that Chytil gets in the next series. It is not automatic that Rempe would come out though. There are 1-3 guys that might come out before Rempe. I would not mind giving Zac Jones a chance if we have trouble with another teams speed as well.

There is no way there are 1-3 guys who would come out before Rempe. Vesey/Goodrow/Wennberg are all key PKers. Cuylle/Kakko don't get much special teams but are obviously ahead of him in the lineup. Roslovic had 4 points in 4 games, plays in the top six, and was also just on the ice with the goalie pull (yes it was technically a PPG but still). Rempe on the other hand gets benched for entire periods late in close games.

 

[Rangers in 7]

rempe has been great and i thought he played a key role in this series against the caps

with that being said though hes coming out for fil game 1 against the canes

 

[NickyFotiu]

There is no way there are 1-3 guys who would come out before Rempe. Vesey/Goodrow/Wennberg are all key PKers. Cuylle/Kakko don't get much special teams but are obviously ahead of him in the lineup. Roslovic had 4 points in 4 games, plays in the top six, and was also just on the ice with the goalie pull (yes it was technically a PPG but still). Rempe on the other hand gets benched for entire periods late in close games.

I did not say 1-3 guys would come out before Rempe. I said 1-3 guys might come out before Rempe. It all depends on how the next series goes. It depends on situations as well. Rempe is the most likely but that is not a lock. I do not know that the coaches were as impressed by Cuyle and KK as fans on this board were in the last series. Wenberg is a possibility only because he is a 3rd line center that has not produced. Still as you pointed out he has done well on the PK. Before this playoff series fans on this board were willing to sit Goody. Now after a good playoff series that has changed. Rempe is the most likely to sit but if Rempe is making his presence known in a physical series plus scoring then he is not a lock. Most the players in that bottom 6 will have to earn their spot. Our 3rd line combined for 1 goal and 0 assists in 4 games. They will have to improve on that if they want to be locks to stay in the lineup for all the playoffs.

 

[Harbour Dog]

I did not say 1-3 guys would come out before Rempe. I said 1-3 guys might come out before Rempe. It all depends on how the next series goes. It depends on situations as well. Rempe is the most likely but that is not a lock. I do not know that the coaches were as impressed by Cuyle and KK as fans on this board were in the last series. Wenberg is a possibility only because he is a 3rd line center that has not produced. Still as you pointed out he has done well on the PK. Before this playoff series fans on this board were willing to sit Goody. Now after a good playoff series that has changed. Rempe is the most likely to sit but if Rempe is making his presence known in a physical series plus scoring then he is not a lock. Most the players in that bottom 6 will have to earn their spot. Our 3rd line combined for 1 goal and 0 assists in 4 games. They will have to improve on that if they want to be locks to stay in the lineup for all the playoffs.

Cuylle and Kakko were a couple of our best forwards against Washington. Laviolette understands hockey; the chances of him running his index finger down the boxscores and scratching either one of those guys is basically 0%.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Cuylle and Kakko were a couple of our best forwards against Washington. Laviolette understands hockey; the chances of him running his index finger down the boxscores and scratching either one of those guys is basically 0%.

For 4 games maybe but you cant have 0 production from your 3rd line and expect it to go on for 16-27 games. Something will have to change. They will have to raise their production. They were 2 of our players that played the least minutes. Coaches notice.

 

[NYR Viper]

For 4 games maybe but you cant have 0 production from your 3rd line and expect it to go on for 16-27 games. Something will have to change. They will have to raise their production. They were 2 of our players that played the least minutes. Coaches notice.

In fairness again, that line was a jumbled mess due to all of the PK, PP and rotation of Cuylle and Wennberg to the 4th line

 

[NickyFotiu]

In fairness again, that line was a jumbled mess due to all of the PK, PP and rotation of Cuylle and Wennberg to the 4th line

Wenberg played a lot in large part due to the PK. Cuyle was the 2nd least on the team after Rempe. KK was 3rd least. Those numbers will go up if they produce a little more.

 

[Harbour Dog]

Wenberg played a lot in large part due to the PK. Cuyle was the 2nd least on the team after Rempe. KK was 3rd least. Those numbers will go up if they produce a little more.

I don't think those numbers are going to change much. Cuylle and Kakko both played more at 5v5 than the 4th line, and more than Kreider. Without special teams, their overall TOI is basically what it's going to be.

 

[JRinNYC]

Knicks friend sent me this.

 

[LORDE]

I see no change for the next game.

What coach changes a team that finished the reg season strong, won the Pres Trophy, then swept the next team?

If Chytil is REALLY ready, & I mean playoff game shape... he'll be in after 1st loss.

Otherwise I see the same lineup.

 

[huerter]

Hockey fans have been conditioned to think that every player needs to play a certain amount or else they are a detriment to the team while no other sport operates that way.

Btw, Lundkvist is playing less than Rempe.

 

[Black Tank]

Hockey fans have been conditioned to think that every player needs to play a certain amount or else they are a detriment to the team while no other sport operates that way.

Btw, Lundkvist is playing less than Rempe.

Agreed. Many don't seem to understand the concept of a 4th line. It's not a 4th line by title, it's a 4th line because these players are going to play less than their teammates because of different usage and different effect on the game. Even on 2010 Team Canada, Patrice Bergeron played the least mins on a 4th line with Corey Perry and Ryan Getzlaf. There isn't enough ice time to go around for 4 1st lines so when you're winning it's crazy to shake up the team chemistry to randomly try and add in scoring to bottom lines.

 

[SA16]

Just to be clear here are Rempe's ranks among forwards on the team in round 1:

CF% - Last
xGF% - Last
Scoring Change Percent - Last
High Danger Chance Percent - Last
TOI - Last
3rd Period TOI - Last (5:51 through 4 games)
Special Teams TOI - Last
Penalties Taken - Most
O-Zone Starts - 100% (T-1)
Hits - Most
GF60 - 1st (Good luck with that continuing).

So you have a 4th liner who gets the easiest possible starter role that somehow has the worst shot share of any forward on the team in every category that takes a ton of penalties, doesn't play special teams, and is not trusted to play in the third period in close games. But he hits a lot. This is not a guy who should be in the lineup against better teams at this point.

 

[McRanger92]

Just to be clear here are Rempe's ranks among forwards on the team in round 1:

CF% - Last
xGF% - Last
Scoring Change Percent - Last
High Danger Chance Percent - Last
TOI - Last
3rd Period TOI - Last (5:51 through 4 games)
Special Teams TOI - Last
Penalties Taken - Most
O-Zone Starts - 100% (T-1)
Hits - Most
GF60 - 1st (Good luck with that continuing).

So you have a 4th liner who gets the easiest possible starter role that somehow has the worst shot share of any forward on the team in every category that takes a ton of penalties, doesn't play special teams, and is not trusted to play in the third period in close games. But he hits a lot. This is not a guy who should be in the lineup against better teams at this point.

Im in the scratch Rempe for Chytil camp, but this is willfully ignoring what Rempe brings to the team. Every player, coach and fan knows his value goes beyond what his corsi is lol. I could certainly see him play in Games 1 & 2 when Lavi controls the matchup. Might get dicey with how fast the Canes play in Raleigh.

 

[Machinehead]

Knicks friend sent me this.
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I got the same text from a basketball friend and they were disappointed when I said "you know he's only 6'8" right?"

 

[LeetchisGod]

Just to be clear here are Rempe's ranks among forwards on the team in round 1:

CF% - Last
xGF% - Last
Scoring Change Percent - Last
High Danger Chance Percent - Last
TOI - Last
3rd Period TOI - Last (5:51 through 4 games)
Special Teams TOI - Last
Penalties Taken - Most
O-Zone Starts - 100% (T-1)
Hits - Most
GF60 - 1st (Good luck with that continuing).

So you have a 4th liner who gets the easiest possible starter role that somehow has the worst shot share of any forward on the team in every category that takes a ton of penalties, doesn't play special teams, and is not trusted to play in the third period in close games. But he hits a lot. This is not a guy who should be in the lineup against better teams at this point.

I think Rempe makes sense against heavy teams like the Caps or Isles. Against a skilled skating team like the Canes, Chytil needs to be in the lineup..

 

[Machinehead]

Im in the scratch Rempe for Chytil camp, but this is willfully ignoring what Rempe brings to the team. Every player, coach and fan knows his value goes beyond what his corsi is lol. I could certainly see him play in Games 1 & 2 when Lavi controls the matchup. Might get dicey with how fast the Canes play in Raleigh.

I don't necessarily disagree. The line's performance in game 1 was brilliant and kept us from being flat in that game. He's shown the ability to literally take opposing defensemen out of series.

That being said, I have to weigh that against a player who was pretty terrible at the hockey aspect for games 2-4, will take penalties, and will get just as many called on him for existing.

If we had no options, I wouldn't just sit here and complain about it, but we have to make a decision on Chytil at some point.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I am cool with sitting Rempe for a game or two just as a learning experience, anyway. Start him Game 1, sit him 2 and 3 (unless he balls out Game 1). Let him learn. He's far from a finished product.

 

[savebyrichter94]

I think you give him the first game at least to see how Carolina or whoever reacts/responds and adjust from there, obviously if he’s really hurting the team he should take a seat for a few but I’d like to see how his game affects their’s first