Matt Rempe hit on Nathan Bastian (No Hearing)

[Beukeboom]

I hope this is sarcasm. If it isn't than I feel bad for you buddy.

Wasn't sarcasm. Any comments on the non-suspension? How is that possible for such a vicious attack?

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Wasn't sarcasm. Any comments on the non-suspension? How is that possible for such a vicious attack?

The league also didn't suspend Tom Wilson when he sent John Moore to the hospital overnight years ago on an awful hit or when Jacob Trouba two handed a guy in the head earlier this year so not the greatest argument buddy

 

[sxvnert]

"but it wasn't after the play!"

 

[Black Tank]

At least Rempe got a lot of low IQ hockey "fans" looking up his stats. Now waiting for Edstrom to rock someone and get his turn. Spoiler: Edstrom is huge too and there's a reason these two were called up from Hartford. Spoiler 2: It's because they're huge, can skate and forecheck and are responsible defensively. Perfect 4th liners on $850K contracts.

Knuckle dragging is just the optional extra.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I thought Rempe could've let up just a tad bit more, but he really did everything you need to for the hit. Gliding, arm tucked, etc. 2 mins for a rough would've probably been sufficient, but a match penalty like he was trying to elbow the guys head off was laughable. I'm guessing Bastian not being injured enough to return to the game to be mollywopped later by Trouba, jump him for being a little bitch after a clean hit and taking a 5 min penalty, and also taking an extra 2 at the same time also would factor into this decision.

You don't suspend guys based on if the guy they hit is hurt or not. By that logic, Trouba would've gotten suspended in the Pittsburgh series for what he did to Crosby in 2022 or the Jarvis hit in the series right after that every Rags fans said was clean but both guys got hurt, right? it's a shame the DPoS is so dogshit that NHL fans don't even know what is and isn't suspendible anymore

At least Rempe got a lot of low IQ hockey "fans" looking up his stats. Now waiting for Edstrom to rock someone and get his turn. Spoiler: Edstrom is huge too and there's a reason these two were called up from Hartford. Spoiler 2: It's because they're huge, can skate and forecheck and are responsible defensively. Perfect 4th liners on $850K contracts.

Knuckle dragging is just the optional extra.

If Edstrom is similar size to that plug and Rags fans are saying it looked bad because of size, why hasn't Edstrom nailed anyone yet? I know the answer but you're obviously gonna deflect into some bullshit

 

[BB79]

It made hockey almost unwatchable in the early 2000's wit the staged fights and star players getting lit up. He is another Boogaard, Chase or Reaves

Yes, that's why fans sat on their hands and turned away whenever there was a fight or line brawl. Totally unwatchable.

 

[Black Tank]

If Edstrom is similar size to that plug and Rags fans are saying it looked bad because of size, why hasn't Edstrom nailed anyone yet? I know the answer but you're obviously gonna deflect into some bullshit

He hasn't had the opportunity yet but it could easily have been Rempe in on the forecheck first while Edstrom waits for the change to complete and comes in for the hit. Edstrom has more hits overall than Rempe so far but both are there for the physicality they bring:

Hulking Adam Edstrom, Matt Rempe having big Rangers effect

If we’re talking about wingspan, no team in hockey history has had a line with the combined wingspan of Edstrom, who stands 6-foot-7, and Rempe, who tops out at 6-8 and a half.

nypost.com

 

[TheNumber4]

Absolutely not whataboutism. Leafs get higher suspensions than any other teams' players over and over. It's beyond a joke at this point. This hit to the head is an order of magnitude worse than Rielly's cross check and everyone reading this knows Rempe will get nothing or a fine. Don't care if people read this as "just the prototypical Leaf fan".

No they don’t. They just do egregiously dumber things to overcompensate for their soft reputation.

 

[TheNumber4]

This one of those through the body head manglers that the NHL always lets go. When a player is in a vulnerable position you are allowed to smash their head as long as it’s through the center.

 

[BS45]

I do not need to see more than his fight the first game and now this malicious hit. The NHL was trying to get rid of these guys who just play to injure or fight. It made hockey almost unwatchable in the early 2000's wit the staged fights and star players getting lit up. He is another Boogaard, Chase or Reaves

1- What was wrong with his fight the first game? Martin asked if he wanted to go and he responded hell yes! So you don't have a problem with Martin and he asked him to go but you have a problem with him accepting the invite!
2- Malicious hit? your problem should be with Bastan for 1 putting himself in such a position and two for jumping Trouba after a perfectly legal hit? This new generation of hockey players puts themselves in positions that myself and my kids were taught to never put yourself in. So many young players in todays NHL do not know how to take a hit

Sounds to me like you are the typical Hockey's Future Rangers hater!

 

[IchabodCrane]

FWIW I didn't like Rempe in junior and didn't think the Rangers would sign him. When they did, I thought he was for sure ticketed for the ECHL. He has done nothing but surprise me. Playing a bottom six role for Hartford he has been a big part of the team, playing in all situations, being defensively responsible, a force on the forecheck, and a physical menace. There's not a ton of offense there but he's not a black hole either; he has some decent mitts and has picked up some dirty goals around the net. Also--he's 21. He could easily have gone the NCAA route where a lot of "developmental" guys go, where he'd probably be in his second year. Instead he's playing pro hockey, and surprisingly to me, not embarrassing himself.

I don't see much more than a rugged fourth liner, but I think you're selling him short when you call him a knuckledragger. The Rangers have other guys in Hartford that they could have called up, whether prospects like Berard or Othmann, or veterans like Belzile. They went with Rempe for a reason.

20000%. Underdog story. I am happy for him. Oh, and the Rangers need energy guys…

20000%. Underdog story. I am happy for him. Oh, and the Rangers need energy guys…

Anybody want to talk about how the dynamics of the game went after that hit…. What someone like that brings to a team… bc that was a damn good game from tje Rangers. And a meek response by the Devils who clearly were beaten physically and mentally

 

[dirtydanglez]

thats the right decision. just because there is contact with the head doesn't mean it's a headshot.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

1- What was wrong with his fight the first game? Martin asked if he wanted to go and he responded hell yes! So you don't have a problem with Martin and he asked him to go but you have a problem with him accepting the invite!
2- Malicious hit? your problem should be with Bastan for 1 putting himself in such a position and two for jumping Trouba after a perfectly legal hit? This new generation of hockey players puts themselves in positions that myself and my kids were taught to never put yourself in. So many young players in todays NHL do not know how to take a hit

Sounds to me like you are the typical Hockey's Future Rangers hater!

You have some valid points but I am not a Ranger hater. I do dislike the leafs.
I was using the fight as an example that after two games he is already typecast as a goon.

Yes, that's why fans sat on their hands and turned away whenever there was a fight or line brawl. Totally unwatchable.

What an amazing argument. Fans in the Gladiator days watched men kill each other that does not make it right. We know the effect head shots have on players be it from fighting, cheap hits or otherwise. We should be mindful of it going forward if we want this game to survive.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

You act like it's malicious and premeditated when really bastin put himself in a dumb situation

It takes two too tango but the Ranger did not let up and hit a player in a vulnerable spot as did my pal Brenden Dillon who paid the price for what was more of a hockey play than tis dude's hit.

Millions of Americans work with significantly higher occupational hazards. It's unfortunate, but they're compensated adequately.

I think you missed the point . Safety measures to guard against head shots have been implements. It was head shot. He should not have done it!

 

[wasup]

FWIW I didn't like Rempe in junior and didn't think the Rangers would sign him. When they did, I thought he was for sure ticketed for the ECHL. He has done nothing but surprise me. Playing a bottom six role for Hartford he has been a big part of the team, playing in all situations, being defensively responsible, a force on the forecheck, and a physical menace. There's not a ton of offense there but he's not a black hole either; he has some decent mitts and has picked up some dirty goals around the net. Also--he's 21. He could easily have gone the NCAA route where a lot of "developmental" guys go, where he'd probably be in his second year. Instead he's playing pro hockey, and surprisingly to me, not embarrassing himself.

I don't see much more than a rugged fourth liner, but I think you're selling him short when you call him a knuckledragger. The Rangers have other guys in Hartford that they could have called up, whether prospects like Berard or Othmann, or veterans like Belzile. They went with Rempe for a reason.

Well I have seen him play a number of games in Hartford when they play LV and I have seen nothing . He is younger yes but there is 0 reason he should have been called up .

First game early drops the gloves and ends up playing 4:28 mins that game , 2nd game gets 5 min major tossed . Yup there is a reason they called him up but hockey skill sure the heck ain't the reason .

Sorry , skill wise he is a lower level ECHL player and the only reason he got an ELC is his size , period .

 

[AirGut]

Well I have seen him play a number of games in Hartford when they play LV and I have seen nothing . He is younger yes but there is 0 reason he should have been called up .

First game early drops the gloves and ends up playing 4:28 mins that game , 2nd game gets 5 min major tossed . Yup there is a reason they called him up but hockey skill sure the heck ain't the reason .

Sorry , skill wise he is a lower level ECHL player and the only reason he got an ELC is his size , period .

This is a critical point in the season for a rival team like the Devils, Drury flexing his drafted muscle with the hopes of preventing a round 1 re-match is just a smart Hockey decision. Rangers needed size and energy and they got it from within while not having to spend a single asset.

 

[BS45]

You have some valid points but I am not a Ranger hater. I do dislike the leafs.
I was using the fight as an example that after two games he is already typecast as a goon.


What an amazing argument. Fans in the Gladiator days watched men kill each other that does not make it right. We know the effect head shots have on players be it from fighting, cheap hits or otherwise. We should be mindful of it going forward if we want this game to survive.

You are the one who type casted him as a goon. Not even knowing that Martin was the one who asked for the fight and then said nothing about what Bastan did after a clean hit. We should also be mindful of the players who continually put themselves in positions like that. I was talking with my wife about when my oldest who is 26 now was 9 years old he started doing Jeff Serowik's Pro Ambitions Battle Camp. Jeff taught the young skaters how to go back, retrieve a puck and not put yourself in a dangerous position. He used to call it the pension position. Every summer my son and a few friends would attend Jeff's camp and I never saw them receive a hit like that or from behind because they learned not to put themselves in that position. All of them played youth through various different levels of college hockey. A couple are in the AHL and knocking on the door for the NHL. Today I routinely watch NHL players put themselves in that position time and time again now a days hoping to draw a penalty if they are hit. The player who is hit when putting himself in a very exposed position needs to accept the responsibility as well. If you watch the hit from Rempe it was text book= the problem was he is 6'8 and Bastan was bent over and not expecting to be hit. Why wasn't he expecting to be hit, he was playing the puck? No one wants to see anyone get injured and possibly end their career. Hits like this are going to happen more and more as the players get bigger & faster and the puck carriers dont accept responsibility for their actions. The Rangers have Ryan Lindgren who does the same stuff, game after game puts himself in positions like this and gets hit and injured. It is amazing that at the NHL there are players that don't know how to hit properly or put yourself in a position to accept a hit properly!

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Bring data.

This work for you? Does this match the eye test when you watch the Leafs (a team that, as I was just told, is a "soft team")?

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/latest-news/theres-a-history-of-events-that-happen-in-toronto-with-the-leafs-that-get-more-attention-are-the-maple-leafs-being-unfairly-scrutinized-by-nhl-department-of-player-safety

"An independent look at NHL DOPS boss George Parros' track record shows that the Leafs have had more in-person and games missed due to suspension than any other NHL club."

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

This is a critical point in the season for a rival team like the Devils, Drury flexing his drafted muscle with the hopes of preventing a round 1 re-match is just a smart Hockey decision. Rangers needed size and energy and they got it from within while not having to spend a single asset.

If the Devils are so soft like every Rags have mentioned, where was this last spring? Surely they could've done it in the playoffs to the same effect. The Devils lost last night as soon as they didn't score on that 5 min major and Zibanejad scored right after. It had nothing to do with them being soft.

Ranger fans slept very well yesterday night as a matter of fact.

I would too if I believed in imaginary things like crypto and the NYR winning the Cup.

 

[lakeshirts37]

Rempe had the option to play the situation with dozen different outcomes but he decided to inflict brain damage. Jesus. Should be at least couple matches worth penalty, but with Parros I expect two at maximum.



Kariya seemed fine too.

 

[AirGut]

If the Devils are so soft like every Rags have mentioned, where was this last spring? Surely they could've done it in the playoffs to the same effect. The Devils lost last night as soon as they didn't score on that 5 min major and Zibanejad scored right after. It had nothing to do with them being soft.



I would too if I believed in imaginary things like crypto and the NYR winning the Cup.

the Rangers did not have a Rempe or Edstrom or Cuylle infused into the bottom-6, that team was hanging on by a thread under an airheaded Gallant. Trying to factor in Kane and make the money work was also adding onto the shitstorm within the locker-room. I'm surprised that group even went up by 2 in the series and still managed to take it to 7, it's a testament to how BUILT the Rangers actually are when they play the game the playoff way. That is what makes cup contenders, contenders.
No matter how much seething there is from fans this is what every team that wins a cup has sprinkled throughout the bottom-6. There is no room for "good guy" teams in this league.

 

[lakeshirts37]

I hope this is sarcasm. If it isn't than I feel bad for you buddy.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

the Rangers did not have a Rempe or Edstrom or Cuylle infused into the bottom-6, that team was hanging on by a thread under an airheaded Gallant. Trying to factor in Kane and make the money work was also adding onto the shitstorm within the locker-room. I'm surprised that group even went up by 2 in the series and still managed to take it to 7, it's a testament to how BUILT the Rangers actually are when they play the game the playoff way. That is what makes cup contenders, contenders.
No matter how much seething there is from fans this is what every team that wins a cup has sprinkled throughout the bottom-6. There is no room for "good guy" teams in this league.

Or your air headed GM who thought it was a smart idea to mismatch the cap for a good 2-3 weeks and play shorthanded regularly for Patrick Kane. And sure, but again, how is that on Gallant? I agree that he sucked as a coach but if he doesn't have the players in the bottom 6, there's nothing he could do. The only thing he should be blamed for is how he treated the kids, not having grit is not an excuse for Gallant considering what he did with Vegas. And I disagree, you need guys to legitimately play hockey, you can't just have guys running around like complete imbeciles. I mentioned Edstrom being a good player in that depth role but if you mention Rempe then you just have a hard on for 90's hockey or seeing these guys fling their bodies like meat missiles at each other.

 

[eviohh26]

I thought it was a shit hit. Prob shoulda gotten some games. I honestly don't care about either team. But now I'm looking forward to the next game they play against each other.

 

[peconcan]

Have no problem with the hit but if he’s on a Canadian team no not the Leafs ANY Canadian team this is a suspension