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Playmaka
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Rather not trade Murray and have to suffer with Fleury again and again and again. That's insanity.
And yet, does that not sound like something this organization would do?
Mid first? Not a chance. I'd say he's worth something similar to what Schneider fetched. He's the real deal, can't believe how far he's come from his days in the Soo. Always thought he was talented but never imagined he'd get this far.
Wasn't that draft Schneider got the 9th OA one of the weakest we have had in a while? I forget.
Ward would be a good mentor for Murray because he's been in his shoes.
I'd consider a deal around Ward+ for MAF.
Ward+Aho for MAF+Sprong?
I'd consider a deal around Ward+ for MAF.
Ward+Aho for MAF+Sprong?
Pens lucky right now. I'm envious. We have some good prospects that may be able to take over from Hank eventually but I think Murray is the real deal soon, personally.
You don't move Fleury yet, but you do a Rask/Thomas or Price/Halak (different I know) thing for a while and see... I wouldn't move Murray now.
His value will be less soon because these fools at this stupid world cup are running Murray down.
Good for Vegas.
Pens lucky right now. I'm envious. We have some good prospects that may be able to take over from Hank eventually but I think Murray is the real deal soon, personally.
You don't move Fleury yet, but you do a Rask/Thomas or Price/Halak (different I know) thing for a while and see... I wouldn't move Murray now.
The farm system isn't loaded by any stretch. In fact, it was one of the worst farm systems last year as far as rankings. It just so happened that we had the right pieces that could come up and contribute.
It may just be me, but I'd call our farm system pretty underrated.
If Pittsburgh decides to keep MAF what is the value of Matt Murray? What could the Penguins reasonably expect as a return?
Not saying anyone would try to screw over Pittsburgh. I'm saying his value simply isn't a 1st round pick or top prospect. Almost every team in the league has a goalie they would rather protect in the Expansion Draft, Fleury's NMC really kills his value. Carolina is one of the few that doesn't (although they might be keen on keeping Altshuller). It's simply a supply and demand issue for Pittsburgh. The other major factor is whether or not Fleury would actually waive to go somewhere else. The most likely outcome is Pittsburgh buying him out, where the Canes would probably make an offer in Free Agency.
Goalies historically don't have very high value anyway. The only goalies drawing high trade value are young, presumed long-term starters (Schneider, Talbot, Jones).
His value will be less soon because these fools at this stupid world cup are running Murray down.
Good for Vegas.
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Solid #analysis
I just ran down the list of Eastern Conference teams and the only two that I think would take Fleury are Carolina and Buffalo. Holtby, Murray, Lundqvist, Greiss/Halak, Mason, Scheider, Bobrovsky, Luongo, Vasilevski, Mrazek, Rask, Anderson, Price, Andersen. Who else drops their goalie for Fleury? Certainly sounds like "most" teams already have their keeper.
At some point, Columbus can't continue relying heavily on Bob. He is an unreliable goalie. There will be pressure for them to make the playoffs. You forgot the one or two teams out west that could use him as well.