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It was not the best game for any Ranger including Zooks but he still did some good things for them. He led the forwards with 6 hits. I heard the announcers say good or great pass from him on 3 occasions. He would have had an assist on the Moore goal that did not count. The first goal he was on the ice for had nothing to do with him. The second goal was a bit of a fluke that Lundy admitted was weak.
 
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I wonder what Zucc is doing to get under the skin of all the heavyweights, he has no business there :laugh:

Last night he was checked from behind and went head first into the boards. Luckily, he came out of that in one piece. Creds though for his grit, noticed he had 6 hits, guess thats why they're going after him.
 
Zucc looked real bad last night. He needs to be better if we want to advance.
 
Kershaw said:
Zucc looked real bad last night. He needs to be better if we want to advance.
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Real bad is a stretch, but he has to be better. The caps went after him, and it worked. He got better as the game went along, but he really has to stop trying to pick corners on his shots so often. Get it on net, go for rebounds.
I do like the fact that he had 6 hits though.
Hopefully some of it was nerves since he only played one PO game before. Counting on him having a much better game on Saturday.
Seems strange that the hit on him from behind only led to a 2 min boarding, ive seen much less dangerous hits punished harder.
 
Kershaw said:
Zucc looked real bad last night. He needs to be better if we want to advance.
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It was not his best game but he still was as good or better than most the forwards.

Positives:

1. 6 hits led forwards
2. Drew one of our few powerplays
3. A few nice passes including an assist on the Moore goal that was not counted.

Negatives:
1. Minus 2 but the first goal had absolutely nothing to do with him and the second goal was a goal that Lundy admits he should have had.
 
Overmatched

Fun stat, every one of Zuccarello's point this season came against non-playoff teams. Every. Single. One.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
Overmatched

Fun stat, every one of Zuccarello's point this season came against non-playoff teams. Every. Single. One.
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oh no he sucks, hes too small to play in the nhl, he bas no talent, he is a soft euro. jesus ****ing christ if it werent for zucc joining this team, we likely wouldnt be in the playoffs right now
 
blooblood said:
oh no he sucks, hes too small to play in the nhl, he bas no talent, he is a soft euro. jesus ****ing christ if it werent for zucc joining this team, we likely wouldnt be in the playoffs right now
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This is a mediocre team that beat some bad teams down the stretch to get in. I think that would've happened with or without Zuccarello. Not sure what the deal is with the need to make him some indispensable piece. He plays well against **** teams and tends to disappear against good ones.
 
Considering that around 3/4 of our games down the stretch were not against playoff teams I don't think that stat is worth much unless somebody is stretching to figure out a reason to bash the kid.

We scored 0 goals vs the Habs.
We scored 1 ot goal (Girardi) vs the Isles.

I think Zooks got the game winning shootout goal vs the Leafs if my memory is correct.

He should have had an assist on a very nice pass to Moore last night if not for a fluke situation.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
This is a mediocre team that beat some bad teams down the stretch to get in. I think that would've happened with or without Zuccarello. Not sure what the deal is with the need to make him some indispensable piece. He plays well against **** teams and tends to disappear against good ones.
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Don't think this is a mediocre team at all. It's not that different from last year, think better, when it was a top team. It's still a top Three team 5v5, just having some special teams issues. Think they will Battle for the (half empty) cup this year.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
This is a mediocre team that beat some bad teams down the stretch to get in. I think that would've happened with or without Zuccarello. Not sure what the deal is with the need to make him some indispensable piece. He plays well against **** teams and tends to disappear against good ones.
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He played almost exclusively against bad teams. It's like saying if he gets points this series and we lose to the Caps "he only got points against the Caps". Silly.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
This is a mediocre team that beat some bad teams down the stretch to get in. I think that would've happened with or without Zuccarello. Not sure what the deal is with the need to make him some indispensable piece. He plays well against **** teams and tends to disappear against good ones.
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Do you realize that this team has been playing together for like a dozen games? They have a good record against bad teams, but I don't see how you can say "they're mediocre they played bad teams down the stretch". We added Clowe, Brassard, Zucc, and Moore to the lineup. Got ride of the dead weight Gaborik. How do you now if THIS team is mediocre?
 
SnowblindNYR said:
Do you realize that this team has been playing together for like a dozen games? They have a good record against bad teams, but I don't see how you can say "they're mediocre they played bad teams down the stretch". We added Clowe, Brassard, Zucc, and Moore to the lineup. Got ride of the dead weight Gaborik. How do you now if THIS team is mediocre?
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My thoughts on the team are driven by the results and competition over a 48 game season. Sure, the roster changed dramatically near the deadline, but not enough to discount the previous 36 games. That notion is absurd and ignorant.

Droves of people are insisting that the Rangers didnt play up to their potential last night. I guess you can only comment on the tenor of this team so long as its above the line at which they've played.

Not sure how this season, so far, can be described as anything but mediocre. If you think otherwise, you've either got your head in the sand, or have subscribed to that "anything can happen" BS even though it hasnt played out like that in the Rangers long history.
 
Hellion said:
Real bad is a stretch, but he has to be better. The caps went after him, and it worked. He got better as the game went along, but he really has to stop trying to pick corners on his shots so often. Get it on net, go for rebounds.
I do like the fact that he had 6 hits though.
Hopefully some of it was nerves since he only played one PO game before. Counting on him having a much better game on Saturday.
Seems strange that the hit on him from behind only led to a 2 min boarding, ive seen much less dangerous hits punished harder.
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SixGoalieSystem said:
A lot of players did. A lot of players do.
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NickyFotiu said:
It was not his best game but he still was as good or better than most the forwards.

Positives:

1. 6 hits led forwards
2. Drew one of our few powerplays
3. A few nice passes including an assist on the Moore goal that was not counted.

Negatives:
1. Minus 2 but the first goal had absolutely nothing to do with him and the second goal was a goal that Lundy admits he should have had.
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I've always been supportive of Zuccarello. I defended him when everyone wrote him off when he signed in Russia before the lockout, I thought it was a mistake to let go of an asset like him. But I really feel he has the potential to do much more, hence my disappointment in game 1.
 
If we had a heart transplant surgeon on our roster they could start the engraving on the Cup tomorrow . We could have MZ's heart transplanted into Nash's chest .:)
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
My thoughts on the team are driven by the results and competition over a 48 game season. Sure, the roster changed dramatically near the deadline, but not enough to discount the previous 36 games. That notion is absurd and ignorant.

Droves of people are insisting that the Rangers didnt play up to their potential last night. I guess you can only comment on the tenor of this team so long as its above the line at which they've played.

Not sure how this season, so far, can be described as anything but mediocre. If you think otherwise, you've either got your head in the sand, or have subscribed to that "anything can happen" BS even though it hasnt played out like that in the Rangers long history.
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Yeah because the Kings last year were the same team pre and post-deadline.

Give me a break, you don't think adding 4 useful players and getting rid of dead weight like Gaborik doesn't dramatically change the team. The trade also improved Richards by a lot (not only going by points, since they're inflated by luck, but the way he's played). So now we have 3 centers, a 6th defenseman, and a guy in Zucc who no matter how much you hate, has played better than Gaborik this year, another depth winger in Clowe. So it's like we added 2 centers, 1 depth D-man and 1 top 6 winger, and 1 top 9 winger. That's not a significant upgrade? Your argument boils down to, despite common sense and stats pointing to the contrary, I'm right because I said so. You really have no argument but because you want to be right, won't change your argument. Pretty transparent.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
No, its not like that...at all.
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I was wrong, I didn't realize that he played 15 games. I thought he played like 2 playoff teams, it was 6 out of 15. Anyway, 3 of the games were in the first 4 games of his season. He was getting used to the NHL. He played 10 games last year, and 52 in his career. So coming into the NHL in the middle of a playoff race probably takes some getting used to. Also, I believe he played on the 3rd line last year and didn't play with Richards or any of the players he played with this year. He can't get some time to find chemistry with new teammates?
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
This is a mediocre team that beat some bad teams down the stretch to get in. I think that would've happened with or without Zuccarello. Not sure what the deal is with the need to make him some indispensable piece. He plays well against **** teams and tends to disappear against good ones.
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This is a well above average team with a below average coach. If you're confused about that, watch the other 29 teams. If you don't have time to watch that many games, over the last 4 combined seasons Phoenix coach Dave Tippett has a better regular season and playoff record than Torts, and Tippett did it with much weaker players.

Bleed Ranger Blue said:
My thoughts on the team are driven by the results and competition over a 48 game season. Sure, the roster changed dramatically near the deadline, but not enough to discount the previous 36 games. That notion is absurd and ignorant.

Droves of people are insisting that the Rangers didnt play up to their potential last night. I guess you can only comment on the tenor of this team so long as its above the line at which they've played.

Not sure how this season, so far, can be described as anything but mediocre. If you think otherwise, you've either got your head in the sand, or have subscribed to that "anything can happen" BS even though it hasnt played out like that in the Rangers long history.
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You feel the Rangers did play up to their potential by not scoring, barely generating any real scoring chances, and going the last 17:53 of the game without getting a single shot on goal?
 
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