Traded Mathieu Joseph (RW)

[playasRus]

Can't see him take more than a 2 year contract. Knows he's burried under a lot of depth here, two years to UFA to get the bag because he probably thinks he can chase that 4-5M contract.

And I'm happy to give him 2 x 2, basically the inflated Nick Paul.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

I prefer Joseph to Formenton.

Formenton has great tools but man his thinking game is a bit iffy.

 

[Sweatred]

I prefer Joseph to Formenton.

Formenton has great tools but man his thinking game is a bit iffy.

Iffy= soft and selfish.

 

[DJB]

Iffy= soft and selfish.

Formenton had a 101 hits last year not exactly soft. He also battles hard along the boards and in front of the net.

 

[GCK]

When you compare their development curves it sure looks to be in favour of Formenton. I like the idea of Joseph on a 3 x 2M deal.

 

[Sweatred]

Formenton had a 101 hits last year not exactly soft. He also battles hard along the boards and in front of the net.

Meh … # of hit is a terrible way to evaluate how tough a player is. Nice tools, I prefer Joseph more … mainly because I anticipate Formy’s contract demands are going to be excessive. He has different value at $1.5 vs $3 million.

I like Formy on Joseph’s historical contract structure … and cringe at the idea of him getting something like Whites contract.

 

[JD1]

Meh … # of hit is a terrible way to evaluate how tough a player is. Nice tools, I prefer Joseph more … mainly because I anticipate Formy’s contract demands are going to be excessive. He has different value at $1.5 vs $3 million.

I like Formy on Joseph’s historical contract structure … and cringe at the idea of him getting something like Whites contract.

Neither player will get a white level contract

We've got that top 6. Chabot signed. Sanderson in the queue. There isn't going to be money for 3rd and 4th liners to be getting deals above 3m.

Get ready for interchangeable parts in the bottom 6 cause it's coming

 

[Sweatred]

Neither player will get a white level contract

We've got that top 6. Chabot signed. Sanderson in the queue. There isn't going to be money for 3rd and 4th liners to be getting deals above 3m.

Get ready for interchangeable parts in the bottom 6 cause it's coming

I like Boucher and Greig’s projection on the third line anyway vs Formy and Joseph.

Cheaper and tougher

 

[DJB]

Meh … # of hit is a terrible way to evaluate how tough a player is. Nice tools, I prefer Joseph more … mainly because I anticipate Formy’s contract demands are going to be excessive. He has different value at $1.5 vs $3 million.

I like Formy on Joseph’s historical contract structure … and cringe at the idea of him getting something like Whites contract.

I mean I don’t understand how you can simply ignore or choose to not use hits as a way to show physicality with a player.

And the entire Joseph vs Formenton debate is silly. We can keep both

 

[HSF]

I like Boucher and Greig’s projection on the third line anyway vs Formy and Joseph.

Cheaper and tougher

We would be lucky is Boucher comes close to formenton or joseph …

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Can't see him take more than a 2 year contract. Knows he's burried under a lot of depth here, two years to UFA to get the bag because he probably thinks he can chase that 4-5M contract.

And I'm happy to give him 2 x 2, basically the inflated Nick Paul.

That sounds good. Also a two year contract keeps the kid on his toes and playing his best every night working for his next contract. That kind of cheap, hard-working bottom six player is what we're going to need going forward to be successful with all the big money contracts we have now.

 

[Sweatred]

I mean I don’t understand how you can simply ignore or choose to not use hits as a way to show physicality with a player.

And the entire Joseph vs Formenton debate is silly. We can keep both

This year … yes. That 3LW spot is Ridleys very soon.

 

[GCK]

Formenton has zero leverage, 1 year cheap contract puts a decision off until next off season. I’d give Joseph what’re term keeps his AAV under 2M.

 

[coladin]

3yr - 8M

 

[OD99]

This year … yes. That 3LW spot is Ridleys very soon.

Ridley will not end up being cheaper than Formenton unless you are strictly talking about ELC.

He projects to score more at minimum let alone his full 200' game.

Boucher is a total question mark at this point.

 

[Sweatred]

Ridley will not end up being cheaper than Formenton unless you are strictly talking about ELC.

He projects to score more at minimum let alone his full 200' game.

Boucher is a total question mark at this point.

We have Ridley locked up on his ELC for three years plus he will be negotiating off 3-4L ice time likely not as generous as Formy’s 2021 usage.

As You said he projects to be much more of a complete player committed to a 200ft game which will cost him some scoring chances that the Formy gives himself with his “him first” mentality.

 

[DJB]

This year … yes. That 3LW spot is Ridleys very soon.

But why get rid of him now? Depth is good and Greig isn’t passing Formenton next year. One can play 3LW and the other 4LW. Joseph plays RW so he doesn’t interfere with Formy either.

I’m confused by your lack of likeness for Formenton at the moment

 

[Sweatred]

But why get rid of him now? Depth is good and Greig isn’t passing Formenton next year. One can play 3LW and the other 4LW. Joseph plays RW so he doesn’t interfere with Formy either.

I’m confused by your lack of likeness for Formenton at the moment

Only to improve the defence . We have world class forwards and sub par defence. He’s the valuable,
Expendable piece IMO.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

So Joseph filing for arbitration .. Sens likely offered under 2. If they can't get a deal done I would expect something over but close to 2.

 

[cudi]

guessing 2.1

 

[Ice-Tray]

Likely just filing before the deadline no? I wouldn’t be surprised if Dorion and Ryan haven’t had a chance to talk contract with Joseph yet.

They’ve been pretty busy lol

 

[Sun God Nika]

Gonna be interesting to see this guys next Contract.

Honestly would not mind handing him 3.25M over 8 years without any trade protection or signing bonuses.

 

[starling]

12 points and +8 in 11 games. Highest PPG and +/- on the roster in 21/22.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

12 points and +8 in 11 games. Highest PPG and +/- on the roster in 21/22.

that stat line was well deserved too.

like he was our best forward on that run aside from perhaps Stutzle.

 

[OD99]

We have Ridley locked up on his ELC for three years plus he will be negotiating off 3-4L ice time likely not as generous as Formy’s 2021 usage.

As You said he projects to be much more of a complete player committed to a 200ft game which will cost him some scoring chances that the Formy gives himself with his “him first” mentality.

Greig will be coming in to a more mature and skilled team so makes sense he won't play up the lineup like Formenton was able to but let's not forget Formenton earned his ice time by playing well in the AHL and then becoming an elite PKer - he is already incredibly valuable.

Also the bolded is nonsense. Now you have taken to insinuating Formenton is selfish? You also call him soft which he obviously isn't. Is he the new whipping boy?