Traded Mathieu Joseph (RW)

Erik Alfredsson

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He definitely doesn't look out of place on that first line. I knew Sens fans were going to love this guy when we traded for him, I was a bit surprised we managed to get him for Paul in all honesty, although I definitely didn't expect him to be playing quite as well as he has been.
 
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Sensinitis

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Great addition to the team. Love his speed and has enough skill to play up and down the lineup. Reminds me of Schaefer not because of style but because of how versatile he is
 

SlapJack

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Always felt he was dangerous and effective when watching Tampa and thought it was a great pickup. He's better than I thought.

Let's see if he can maintain consistency playing in the top 6 but even if not, having him and Formenton out there at different times killing penalties will give the opposition fits.
 

bicboi64

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No we need to add a top 6

No more half solutions
Don't get me wrong. I'd love for us to acquire two of Fiala, Giroux, Filip Forsberg, heck even Radulov, but I don't think Dorion can get it done so lemme dream about Joseph being a part of the solution lol
 

Alf Silfversson

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He's always been effective but he's not this good. It was a really nice trade but he'll come back down to earth a little. He's awesome though.

I love having him, Forms and Brown out there at different times. Speed kills.
 

God Says No

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i loved Joseph before he joined the Sens, and thought he would be a really good addition. BUT, I didn't expect him to be this GOOD. Especially the offense. I always thought of him as a bottom 6 option. Perhaps he's more than that. Perhaps he just needed a chance to expand his role.

Really good acquistion.
 

bicboi64

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His defensive awareness and hustle is nice. Brady had a brutal pass intercepted and Joseph saved us there. I hope we can find good fits for Joseph on the first and second line!
 

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hot stretch, reminds me a lot of Marchment from FLA. Speaking of Marchment, sens should pursue him UFA this season
 

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hot stretch, reminds me a lot of Marchment from FLA. Speaking of Marchment, sens should pursue him UFA this season
You really think he would come to play for us? ok maybe at 15M per year.

Sorry DanyHeatley, my mistake
 
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I can’t believe Tampa gave up Joseph, I always wanted him and thought he was unavailable. This is the type of player I always wanted over a Hoffman or Duclair. 2 way player who has shown untapped offensive potential. Great fit.
 

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Has been very, very good.

He’s not going to be scoring as he has been the past 3 games, that’s obvious. Think he can be a 20-30 complimentary winger on a scoring line, along with one of the best PK guys in the league. If not, he can be a part of an extremely fast, skilled 3rd line.

Watched him play and practice for 4 years in Saint John, he has much more skill and talent than he showed in Tampa. Was always great defensively and extremely fast, but he can score and make plays as well.

We’ve played 2 of the worst teams in the league for perspective, but he’s showing to be a very nice addition.

Fits in with the core, should be able to be signed to an affordable 3/4 year contract.

Sens have liked him since his time with the Sea Dogs, am not surprised whatsoever he was a target for them, and he should have been.
 

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Might be our new Connor Brown.

I hope that Joseph isn't the excuse management uses to let Brown go after next season.

I want both of them on this team long-term. You win with tenacious puck-hounds like them.
 
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DaveMatthew

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He's been great so far, here's hoping he's the next Carter Verhaeghe. Can't make it into Tampa's top 6, but just needs an opportunity somewhere else.
 

Burrowsaurus

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Tampa has got to be wondering why TF they ever traded him right now.

Also, yeah, I'll eat crow now. I didn't think that was a good trade for us but boy was I wrong lol.
I think tampa is a well run enough organization that I don’t assess trades after the guy they traded puts up points against Detroit.
 

Ice-Tray

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I think tampa is a well run enough organization that I don’t assess trades after the guy they traded puts up points against Detroit.
They didn’t want to trade him to begin with. They knew that they couldn’t even afford his QO and so they had to trade him in order to get some value before they were forced to let him walk.

They probably knew that he had some untapped abilities that couldn’t be mined on a deep TBay team, but what can you do? I’m sure they are gambling on him being a bottom 6 guy going forward.

I’m sure they are looking at the guy and still in the phase of wishing him well. If he keeps up his level of play, keeps scoring points, and keeps looking good on a solid NHL top line, they might start to change to wishing they had made room for him.

Well run or not, if this is who Joseph is going to be, a team is best to find a way to keep him.
 

Burrowsaurus

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They didn’t want to trade him to begin with. They knew that they couldn’t even afford his QO and so they had to trade him in order to get some value before they were forced to let him walk.

They probably knew that he had some untapped abilities that couldn’t be mined on a deep TBay team, but what can you do? I’m sure they are gambling on him being a bottom 6 guy going forward.

I’m sure they are looking at the guy and still in the phase of wishing him well. If he keeps up his level of play, keeps scoring points, and keeps looking good on a solid NHL top line, they might start to change to wishing they had made room for him.

Well run or not, if this is who Joseph is going to be, a team is best to find a way to keep him.
I doubt this is who Joseph is gonna be. Hope so. Doubt it.
 

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Like @JD1 said about Brown, it's quite telling that he and Joseph look like 2 of our best players.

It is more indicative of the amount of real skill and talent we lack, than of their true capabilities(especially on contending teams). Playing so many minutes, because we have nothing else, is making them seem greater than they really are, and will bite us hard at the end because we'll be overpaying instead of underpaying(what smart teams do) for their abilities.

Usually when a team plays against a bottom feeder, they let off a bit and those who are playing huge amount of minutes start to produce, but it's not genuine of how it'd be under more competitive circumstances.

In Joseph's case for example, the minutes do appear to have increased after his stellar showings, and he's followed it up with continued great looks and efforts(even on top line against toughest competition) he also has pedigree of being notable scorer in junior and AHL so could be late explosion.

My point from all that being: this is what happens when we do not bring in good supplanting talent, even if it's temporary, it forces our young guys to play much higher roles and sometimes demonstrating more than what they'd be capable of in tougher circumstances, making us having to pay more to retain their true worth.

This is why I advocated for bringing in stop gaps, even if we remained somewhat stagnate, would have sheltered the minutes of some of our great young stars and allowed us to pay them more accordingly which would have reaped TREMENDOUS benefit down the line.

Imagine if we got Henrique and Norris didn't play a lot of minutes and scoring at the clip he is, we'd be looking at 5-6 million longterm instead of 7-8. Henrique would have left after providing mentorship role, and Norris' numbers would have exploded with more ice-time and mature play after his longterm contract.

It's a way smart GMs create winning cultures by bringing in strong mentors, and timing the given increased roles for their younger stars.
 

Larionov

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Pretty sure that I saw Joseph in the photo of Lightning's visit to the White House today. If so, good on Sens management to give him a pass to go to that special occasion...
 
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