Value of: Mason McTavish to Montreal

[tnnr]

Probably starts with first rounder + reinbacher and I'm still not sure ANA considers it.
McTavish is a 22 YO proven top 6 C
Teams never trade those

A few local rumors circulating about offer sheets. Anaheim has their 1C in Carlsson so I wonder what it would take to see McTavish moved.

It's hard to believe since Anaheim has tons of cap space but for the sake of indulgence, can some Anaheim fans chip in what they'd want from Montreal

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

You would have to ask those same 3 Hab fans.

Y’all need to do a better job of keeping them on a leash and not letting them run lose on the MB where you have to constantly pick up after them.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Y’all need to do a better job of keeping them on a leash and not letting them run lose on the MB where you have to constantly pick up after them.

What do you want us to do? Kidnap them?

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

What do you want us to do? Kidnap them?

Your call.

 

[samsagat]

I might be wrong, but I think Anaheim's primary need would be a young top 2 RHD.

They're set at others premium structuring positions, centers and LHD. But a bit light in terms of RHD.

McTavish is a GMs/coaches wet dream, a power center with talent.

He'd cost an arm and a leg and then some...

They'll keep him for sure but just for the sake of it, I'd say they ask Reinbacher, Hage and one of MTL 2025 1st (and maybe some more?)

Or Demidov+

 

[Steve Austin]

The rumor created is of the mindset

What does Montreal want/need

And the other team is irrelevant

That’s exactly how most of us Hab fans think: “What do WE want/need? Screw the other teams’ wants/needs!”

You know shit’s bad when we want all of the other teams’ best players/prospects and offer our garbage leftovers.

And that’s the bottom line.

 

[cheesymc]

If Mctavish showed a desire and preference to play in a big market like Montreal and the Canadians wanted to save on cap space and preferred to trade over an offer-sheet, as a Duck fan I would be willing to move on but only for ready to play prospects. Demidov + Reinbacher would do it for McTavish and excess LHD prospects like Hinds/Tarin Smith + wingers like Pastujov/Sidorov/Nesterenko. The ducks could sign or trade for a veteran center, draft another center, and also try Zegras at center again. No big deal.

 

[samsagat]

Mmmm.

Demidov + Reinbacher would be a no go, I don't think Habs brass would do it and fans would be pissed off.

There's limit to overpaying, even if McTavish is of a rare and sought after breed.

Demidov showed he was a special player.

Reinbacher has all the tools to be a stabilizing presence, a tough minute munching right handed defenseman with good size and excellent skating.

That too are sought after and rare breeds.

 

[Baksfamous112]

If Mctavish showed a desire and preference to play in a big market like Montreal and the Canadians wanted to save on cap space and preferred to trade over an offer-sheet, as a Duck fan I would be willing to move on but only for ready to play prospects. Demidov + Reinbacher would do it for McTavish and excess LHD prospects like Hinds/Tarin Smith + wingers like Pastujov/Sidorov/Nesterenko. The ducks could sign or trade for a veteran center, draft another center, and also try Zegras at center again. No big deal.

What. You wouldn’t get a sniff at Demidov for McTavish let alone adding a prospect like Reinbacher. This is as unrealistic as thinking McTavish would move for picks and B prospects

 

[FiveTacos]

If Montreal could trade all its picks for a top pick in draft

Unlikely.

Anaheim might trade McTavish here

Less likely. Almost every team looking to pick a C would take McTavish over almost any of this years guys, except maybe Misa.

McTavish is just not a realistic target. I’m just not sure why this thread is still ongoing

A quick search finds tons of team board proposals for McTavish that are absolutely nonsensical from a Ducks perspective. Though they're not half as ridiculous as the Carlsson ones.

The number of different team boards that have described Mctavish as a "perfect" or "ideal" solution should tell those folks that the price would/should be way higher than they're thinking.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

proposals like this are completely unrealistic. Ducks are not trading Mason.

End of story.

 

[JadedRandom]

If Mctavish showed a desire and preference to play in a big market like Montreal and the Canadians wanted to save on cap space and preferred to trade over an offer-sheet, as a Duck fan I would be willing to move on but only for ready to play prospects. Demidov + Reinbacher would do it for McTavish and excess LHD prospects like Hinds/Tarin Smith + wingers like Pastujov/Sidorov/Nesterenko. The ducks could sign or trade for a veteran center, draft another center, and also try Zegras at center again. No big deal.

No offense but I actually think that by next year at the same date Demidov alone will hold more value than McTavish.

I've watched every game Demidov has played over the last two season and I really think he'll be a very good player in the NHL.

In fact, I think that Demidov has consistent 90-100 pt/season potential if he develops well.

McTavish is also tremendously talented in his own regard and I fully understand why Anaheim would not want to trade him for anything but an overpayment. I frankly don't think there is much chance that the Canadiens and Ducks would make good trade partners on this.

But again, I just think Demidov is currently projecting to be the better player of the two so it would be a mistaken on the Canadiens' part to trade him for McTavish.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

I guess maybe hes a realistic/ideal target

But its not a realistic scenario with the knowledge we have.

Never bet against Montreal young fellow

 

[samsagat]

Never bet against Montreal young fellow

When it comes to that type of trades, I'll bet against Montreal any days of the week.

When was the last time Habs traded for such a premium already established young player?

The last time was Drouin, but it didn't ended well...

P.S.: I'm a Habs fan.

 

[Sendhelp2Anaheim]

Never bet against Montreal young fellow

Montreal spent the last 2 years telling us zegras was going there for basically nothing

Based on

“Trust me bro “

 

[samsagat]

Montreal spent the last 2 years telling us zegras was going there for basically nothing

Based on

“Trust me bro “

Well, it almost happened since multiple credible "insiders" had the same information that MTL and Anaheim were very close to pull the trigger on a Zegras trade on last draft day.

Words were that Mailloux + MTL latter 1st round pick were making their way to Anaheim as a pay back.

Maybe with some more little adds in and there...

 

[Kosseca]

Well, it almost happened since multiple credible "insiders" had the same information that MTL and Anaheim were very close to pull the trigger on a Zegras trade on last draft day.

Words were that Mailloux + MTL latter 1st round pick were making their way to Anaheim as a pay back.

Maybe with some more little adds in and there...

Rumor as reported by news outlets was Zegras + 2nd vs Mailloux + 21OV

 

[Rooch]

You wouldn’t get a sniff at Demidov for McTavish let alone adding a prospect like Reinbacher.

You want to acquire one the league's premier young players but you don't want to move your precious top prospects? I'm afraid that's not how things work.

 

[Rooch]

Rumor as reported by news outlets was Zegras + 2nd vs Mailloux + 21OV

Anaheim just hired a coach with some very delicate sexual assault allegations in his past. Don't think they'd be interested in Mailloux based on his alleged indiscretions in that area.

 

[Wats]

You do realize Demidov and MacT are different types of players, right? Habs would be looking at Demodov + the equivalent of three more firsts. The Ducks have no reason to trade the player. Therefore the cost would be a big overpay.

Demidov+ 3x1sts for McTavish eh

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Montreal spent the last 2 years telling us zegras was going there for basically nothing

Based on

“Trust me bro “

Montreal spent the last 2 years telling us zegras was going there for basically nothing

Based on

“Trust me bro “

Zegras was almost a Hab on draft day. If Demidov doesn't slide to 5, Montreal was going to draft Dickinson. Then trade 21 and Mailloux for Zegras and Ducks 2nd.

 

[Baksfamous112]

You want to acquire one the league's premier young players but you don't want to move your precious top prospects? I'm afraid that's not how things work.

I personally think he’s out of reach so it’s a moot point. I just know that in an alternate world where McTavish would magically be available, he wouldn’t cost Demidov AND Reinbacher.

If a thread about Caufield to Anaheim was started and I would go in and say “The price for Caufield would be Carlsson and Sennecke” then I would expect people to call me out on it and rightfully so.

Edit: I also think Demidov will be superior player to McTavish through their careers. That’s why I wouldn’t do that trade one for one

 

[Baksfamous112]

A quick search finds tons of team board proposals for McTavish that are absolutely nonsensical from a Ducks perspective. Though they're not half as ridiculous as the Carlsson ones.

The number of different team boards that have described Mctavish as a "perfect" or "ideal" solution should tell those folks that the price would/should be way higher than they're thinking.

And for a good reason. McTavish got size and skills. He’s a more skilled version of Bennett so it’s totally understandable why many teams would want to acquire him if he became available.

He’s literally the perfect 1B/2A C any contending teams would dream of.

 

[Kosseca]

Anaheim just hired a coach with some very delicate sexual assault allegations in his past. Don't think they'd be interested in Mailloux based on his alleged indiscretions in that area.

That is the rumour of last year's draft. Nothing to do with the current context and I think it is very unlikely that MTL revisit Zegras as a potential trade target. That said, Maillloux made amends, went through several hoops to get clear to play, including getting some sort of blessing from the victim. So this narrative about his pass shouldn't be a factor.

McTavish is addressing a key area for MTL, thus the number of fan targeting him, but as many non-hab fans have said why would ANA trade him? Completely understand that, in this context, it would take an overpayment, which is not something that will happen. There is no "realistic" deal to be negotiated on this board.

 

[LuGBuG]

Zegras was almost a Hab on draft day. If Demidov doesn't slide to 5, Montreal was going to draft Dickinson. Then trade 21 and Mailloux for Zegras and Ducks 2nd.

Damn was it cool being in the war room?