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If you trade marchment and dumba you are able to sign duchene for 3 and benn for 2. Enables the bottom 6 to be pretty much set...with still a bit of cap space to get an efficient signing for your top 6. (Just not top tier)

While the team needs an upgrade on RHD I wonder if it's a position you look to fill at the deadline.
 
Troy McClure said:
A bigger question is how many guys on the AHL roster have any NHL future?

I don't know much about any of them beyond their names and some general idea about their stat lines. Can any of these forwards really skate? Are any especially physical? I want the Stars forward group to get faster, but from the few call ups they've done of a couple of those guys, none stood out as being anything more than potential cheap 4th line rotation prices.
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IMHO, maybe Hemming, no one else. All that run of great drafting has sort of ended, and the prospect pool is nearly dry of impactful NHL talent. Again, IMHO.
 
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catters078 said:
If you trade marchment and dumba you are able to sign duchene for 3 and benn for 2. Enables the bottom 6 to be pretty much set...with still a bit of cap space to get an efficient signing for your top 6. (Just not top tier)

While the team needs an upgrade on RHD I wonder if it's a position you look to fill at the deadline.
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Bottom 6 shouldn't be pretty much set. That's A soft bottom 6 and is very much a problem.

I'll never understand how people can see this team fizzle out, see what's obviously missing, see which players can't do shit after game 82 and be like let's bring them back with very few exceptions.

Duchene has been bad in the PO 2yrs in a row, and his whole career minus 1 season in which Panarin was the driving force.
We're going to trade the 1 forward who's almost a goal per game in the conference finals(12g in 17gp) that actually does show up and everyone wants to bring back players that score 1-2 goals the entire run.

There's 0 reason to bring back the same bottom 6 as last year. Steel can obviously stay, but the other 2 wings can be improved upon.
There's no reason to bring Duchene back either.
3m won't get you a 30g-80p in the regular season, but it can sure as hell get you more than 3g in 37games in the PO.
It can sure as hell buy someone who finishes checks, or puts in effort in the defensive zone. So that even when they aren't scoring they're at least contributing in meaningful ways.
Duchene does none of that, and he doesn't score either. If we had tons of money, sure 3m for Duchene knowing he's gonna suck the entire PO run, but we're very cap strapped can't burn 3m or 5m on Duchene and Benn who bring nothing to the table in the PO (any more in Benn's case)
 
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M88K said:
Bottom 6 shouldn't be pretty much set. That's A soft bottom 6 and is very much a problem.

I'll never understand how people can see this team fizzle out, see what's obviously missing, see which players can't do shit after game 82 and be like let's bring them back with very few exceptions.

Duchene has been bad in the PO 2yrs in a row, and his whole career minus 1 season in which Panarin was the driving force.
We're going to trade the 1 forward who's almost a goal per game in the conference finals(12g in 17gp) that actually does show up and everyone wants to bring back players that score 1-2 goals the entire run.

There's 0 reason to bring back the same bottom 6 as last year. Steel can obviously stay, but the other 2 wings can be improved upon.
There's no reason to bring Duchene back either.
3m won't get you a 30g-80p in the regular season, but it can sure as hell get you more than 3g in 37games in the PO.
It can sure as hell buy someone who finishes checks, or puts in effort in the defensive zone. So that even when they aren't scoring they're at least contributing in meaningful ways.
Duchene does none of that, and he doesn't score either. If we had tons of money, sure 3m for Duchene knowing he's gonna suck the entire PO run, but we're very cap strapped can't burn 3m or 5m on Duchene and Benn who bring nothing to the table in the PO (any more in Benn's case)
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Even ever positive Razor on the Ticket this morning talked about how he thinks the Stars need more dogs. He pointed to Mike Keane, Corey Perry, and the trio now in Florida of Bennett, Marchand, and Tkachuk. He thinks that's what they're missing to get to the next level.

I know getting to the conference final three seasons in a row is difficult and impressive, but it's also not hard to see the Stars be clearly the inferior team three seasons in a row and feel dejected, especially with this last one being not at all competitive.

So getting to the next level of competing with these finals teams requires real changes, but I guess I understand the fear of making changes leading to falling short of even this level of success.
 
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Zrhutch said:
He also brings up Ekblad. It’s worth saying that this lines up with a lot of what we’ve been hearing.

I’m officially kinda worried. Don’t f*** this trade up.
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I heard we are not in on Ekblad anymore. Probably demanding too much.
 
starsfan86 said:
Says Ott and Ana could be possible destinations.

McTavish ++

B. Tkachuk probably not getting dealt.

Chabot+ although he’s a LD and we need RD.

I’d personally just keep him. But if you can get something like McTavish and a good d prospect then maybe you do it.
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I doubt McTavish is on the table otherwise make that happen.

Chabot would be a disaster of a trade. The issue is who replaces Robertson’s production? Picks and prospects don’t make sense as a return. Dallas seems like they want to win now. Creating cap space or Marner who will cost 12-14 mil is also a bad idea. I don’t see a free agent who will replace Jason’s production that won’t cost significantly more than he is making. Still need to fill out the roster and have more size and physicality.
 
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roryjones said:
I doubt McTavish is on the table otherwise make that happen.

Chabot would be a disaster of a trade. The issue is who replaces Robertson’s production? Picks and prospects don’t make sense as a return. Dallas seems like they want to win now. Creating cap space or Marner who will cost 12-14 mil is also a bad idea. I don’t see a free agent who will replace Jason’s production that won’t cost significantly more than he is making. Still need to fill out the roster and have more size and physicality.
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Well, no deal then for Anaheim.

Yeah I don’t really want Chabot either. Just don’t know who else would be available for Ottawa.

McTavish, Luneau, 2nd would be my offer for a 100 point winger. McTavish should have a bump in point production as he matures.
 
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MBTendy said:
I trust Nill and if he believes it’s gotta be done, so be it.

Curious to see what the return will be.
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No, this is out of spite for the previous contract negotiations.
It doesn't need to be done, like say moving on from Benn, which ironically won't happen
 
MBTendy said:
Agree to disagree.

Also at the end of the day, nobody knows for sure what’s going on behind closed doors and why Robo is being shopped.
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We do though, or at least have credible information as to why.
Teams don't generally trade their 2nd best forward, and best goal scorer, in their prime no less, to improve the team
 
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starsfan86 said:
Says Ott and Ana could be possible destinations.

McTavish ++

B. Tkachuk probably not getting dealt.

Chabot+ although he’s a LD and we need RD.

I’d personally just keep him. But if you can get something like McTavish and a good d prospect then maybe you do it.
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How about Batherson and our first. You get one tier less quality winger but a lot of cap flexibility to find a RHD
Brady is untouchable for obvious reasons.
 
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M88K said:
We do though, or at least have credible information as to why.
Teams don't generally trade their 2nd best forward, and best goal scorer, in their prime no less, to improve the team
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That may be accurate but why are you siding with Robo? My point is we don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors. For all we know Robo is demanding 12 + million and not being considerate of building a championship roster. Robo can be focused on just making bank and if that’s the case, moving him is the right move. Robo is not the type of player you give top dollar to imo.

And that’s why I’m trusting Nill will make the right move if he does move him. Nill does not have the reputation of making moves out of spite and hurting the team.
 
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I know people dump on Robo a lot, but I'll be sad to see him go if we do trade him, seems like a good dude.

Also feels like a trade that we're gonna lose due to who is available, but hopefully Nill makes trading him worth it. I have faith but it'll suck to see him go either way.

Brady seems like a pipe dream, but I think everyone on the planet knows he's not staying in Ottawa after his deal is up in a few years.
 
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