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Value of: Martin Prospisil, Nicolas Deslauriers and Mathieu Olivier to Montréal

madmike77

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Pospisil isn’t going to go for less than a low 1st. He’s an NHL regular who people hate to play against, can score the odd goal and is defensively responsible.

There’s no point trading him for a 2nd or less. You’d be lucky to get a Pospisil with a 2nd and a few years of development.

Would I give up a 1st for him? Probably not. But there’s zero incentive for the Flames to trade him for less than that given his age and what he’s done so far.
 
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Double Dion

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HuGo Sham said:
he's 25 in a month, missed a full year and has never scored more than 8 goals and - he's worth a potential lottery pick?
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Drafted in 2018. Guess how many guys were drafted with a bottom 10 1st who are better from 2017 to 2019? It's a short list. 2 players. K'Andre Miller and Jake Oettinger. 2 out of 30.

If you're judging Pospisil by goals then it's abundantly clear you don't know who he is. He's a defensive savant and a top 5 irritant in the league. He's a missile on the forecheck. How would you feel about a physical, nasty Lekhonen? That's Pospisil. He'll add 15 goals minimum this year too. The coaching staff is playing him with our 10.5 Million dollar failure of a winger because they are hoping POSPISIL can help HUBERDEAU to be useful.
 
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Olivier is actually a hockey player who legitimately deserves to be in the lineup, he's not a detriment to his team when he's on the ice and I hope they keep him around for awhile. I thought the Xhekaj bro's are supposed to terrorize the league someday?
 

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Double Dion said:
Drafted in 2018. Guess how many guys were drafted with a bottom 10 1st who are better from 2017 to 2019? It's a short list. 2 players. K'Andre Miller and Jake Oettinger. 2 out of 30.

If you're judging Pospisil by goals then it's abundantly clear you don't know who he is. He's a defensive savant and a top 5 irritant in the league. He's a missile on the forecheck. How would you feel about a physical, nasty Lekhonen? That's Pospisil. He'll add 15 goals minimum this year too. The coaching staff is playing him with our 10.5 Million dollar failure of a winger because they are hoping POSPISIL can help HUBERDEAU to be useful.
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You left a LOT of guys out.

In terms of games played in the NHL as a basic look:

7/10 in 2018 have him beat
9/10 in 2017 have him beat
4/10 in 2019 have him beat

To say he's better than Rasmus Sandin or Morgan Frost is wild.

Also a disgusting way to value assets, by that logic of "well late 1sts only have a so and so % chance of becoming NHLers" every single NHLer in the league would be worth a 1st.
 

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Habby4Life said:
Potential top 5 pick for that guy, hahahahaha!!!
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I never said top 5. I said 2 out of 30 bottom 10 picks are better than Pospisil from 2017 to 2019. One year before his draft, his draft and one year after his draft. Galchenyuk was picked 3 OA. I'm sure you remember him.

Pospisil is a player who you win with. Florida just won with a bottom 6 full of lesser versions of Pospisil.

You guys traded a less physical version of Pospisil for a 2nd and Justin Barron. Did that work out well for you or for the Avs?
 
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Double Dion said:
Drafted in 2018. Guess how many guys were drafted with a bottom 10 1st who are better from 2017 to 2019? It's a short list. 2 players. K'Andre Miller and Jake Oettinger. 2 out of 30.

If you're judging Pospisil by goals then it's abundantly clear you don't know who he is. He's a defensive savant and a top 5 irritant in the league. He's a missile on the forecheck. How would you feel about a physical, nasty Lekhonen? That's Pospisil. He'll add 15 goals minimum this year too. The coaching staff is playing him with our 10.5 Million dollar failure of a winger because they are hoping POSPISIL can help HUBERDEAU to be useful.
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Wow. In your evaluation, he sounds generational. Keep him. Habs aren’t trading a potential lottery pick for him

stevo61 said:
Olivier is actually a hockey player who legitimately deserves to be in the lineup, he's not a detriment to his team when he's on the ice and I hope they keep him around for awhile. I thought the Xhekaj bro's are supposed to terrorize the league someday?
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well he did beat up the sens tough guy and then scored a goal so there's that
 

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I never said top 5. I said 2 out of 30 bottom 10 picks are better than Pospisil from 2017 to 2019. One year before his draft, his draft and one year after his draft. Galchenyuk was picked 3 OA. I'm sure you remember him.

Pospisil is a player who you win with. Florida just won with a bottom 6 full of lesser versions of Pospisil.

You guys traded a less physical version of Pospisil for a 2nd and Justin Barron. Did that work out well for you or for the Avs?
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Do you genuinely believe Pospisil is better than Rasmus Sandin
 
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Double Dion said:
I never said top 5. I said 2 out of 30 bottom 10 picks are better than Pospisil from 2017 to 2019. One year before his draft, his draft and one year after his draft. Galchenyuk was picked 3 OA. I'm sure you remember him.

Pospisil is a player who you win with. Florida just won with a bottom 6 full of lesser versions of Pospisil.

You guys traded a less physical version of Pospisil for a 2nd and Justin Barron. Did that work out well for you or for the Avs?
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You said MTLs first which will be very high. Pospisil isn’t worth even close to that.

Scrub for a potential top 5, only on HF boards, haha.

Btw - Pros isn’t qualified to carry Leks equipment bag.
 
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Habby4Life said:
You said MTLs first which will be very high. Pospisil isn’t worth even close to that.

Scrub for a potential top 5, only on HF boards, haha.

Btw - Pros isn’t qualified to carry Leks equipment bag.
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Just your assessment of him as a scrub is plainly ridiculous. It means your opinion is really uninformed. Guy plays 60 games and is second in the league in hits while playing lights out D and he's a scrub.

According to MTL fans they have a good nucleus. Yet you think it's a top 5 pick? Only one of those things can be true.
 
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Double Dion said:
Just your assessment of him as a scrub is plainly ridiculous. It means your opinion is really uninformed. Guy plays 60 games and is second in the league in hits while playing lights out D and he's a scrub.

According to MTL fans they have a good nucleus. Yet you think it's a top 5 pick? Only one of those things can be true.
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He is a scrub, worth a first round pick, lol, thanks for the laugh.
 
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Double Dion

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Habby4Life said:
He is a scrub, worth a first round pick, lol, thanks for the laugh.
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I said I wouldn't trade him for the Florida pick. He's worth substantially more. Just because you guys gave away Lekhonen for nothing doesn't mean we're going to give away a more physical version of him for nothing.
 
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